Traitor Bernie Sanders refuse to buy American products

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  1. Thedimon

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    Look at apple headquarters. They don’t have assembly people working there, but you can’t claim that only the owners get the money.
    For any product you see, teams worked on designing them for years. There are lots of jobs available to average joe. Plants in China just do the final part - taking part A, attaching it to part B, and then wrapping/boxing the final product. They didn’t participate in designing, marketing and selling the item. Chinese can’t even deliver the item to the end user, making jobs in logistics (similar to manufacturing) of higher demand because of the need to ship the product.
     
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    China can make any chips they want, but currently the world is using Windows, Apple or Linux (or variations). All are American products. All OS systems kernels must be designed to work for each chips architecture, locking OS to the chips.
    As for Windows on military equipment - even Russian military uses Windows. ;)
    So, yeah, our stuff is everywhere. And with Microsoft moving towards subscription based business, they’ll plant a kill switch into every Windows OS they produce.
     
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    Trump's wife is from Slovenia.

    what, American women not good enough for him??????????
     
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    It's one of the reasons they are kicking our a$$. People think they can't do it. They can.
    https://qz.com/505383/a-first-look-...stem-the-government-wants-to-replace-windows/
     
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    And that's different than here?
     
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    Linux doesn’t have nearly as many options when it comes to software compared to Windows. Especially Chinese version of Linux.
     
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    It is a global world. Most all things come from various parts of the globe. That isn't going to change anytime soon.
     
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    and whom marketed those...
     
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    Broadcom and AMD have all their chips made in Asia. Intel are opening a foundry in Arizona to make chips, but at the moment they have the majority of their chips made in Asia.
    And I wasn't talking about "Made in China" I was talking about the "Made in the USA from foreign sourced parts", which in reality means:
    https://thinkprogress.org/walmarts-made-in-usa-televisions-are-allegedly-made-in-china-ebf3ae7cceec/
     
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    You should do some reading about US drugs being sold in Canada and the US;

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2000/05/why-do-drugs-cost-less-in-canada.html If you don't like this URL you can Google 1000's others.

    Excerpt;

    Prescription drugs, even those manufactured by American companies, cost much less in Canada than in the United States. Why?

    The simple answer is price controls. A Canadian law authorizes a review board to order a price reduction whenever the price of a drug exceeds the median of the prices in six European countries plus the United States. Since all the European countries intervene in various ways to hold down drug costs, Canada in effect piggy-backs on other countries’ price controls.

    So why not do the same thing south of the border? Trouble is, drug companies are willing to sell for less in Canada and elsewhere only because they can sell for more in the United States. They are engaging in what economists call “price discrimination”–that is, charging different prices to different buyers of the same product. Price discrimination works in the drug industry because drugs are very expensive to develop, but fairly cheap to manufacture. As long as companies can recoup their research and development costs by charging high prices in the United States, they can make a profit in Canada and elsewhere by merely covering the cost of making the pill (or tube of ointment or whatever). Similar price discrimination occurs within the United States, with HMOs and other large buyers able to negotiate lower prices while the uninsured pay top dollar.

    In most cases they are American products!
     
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    Really.

    How does universal health care stop the people currently paying the government to look the other way when UBC would allow the people being paid off to have direct control.

    It's like saying Congress can be trusted with the power to give themselves raises.
     
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    We're talking about Insulin - a German discovery, Canadian developed drug primarily produced in Denmark.
     
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    Don't mess with Sanders semitic powers, dudes, I am telling you.

    He just released his climate plan and David Koch is already dead!

    His economic plan is good as well: don't buy American until American businesses pay living wages.
     
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    BREAKING NEWS

    Trump announces significant raise in Customs Duty Tariffs for prescription drugs.

    Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) announced Thursday he will accompany patients with diabetes on a bus trip to Canada to buy insulin that's available at cheaper prices than in the U.S.
     
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    It's almost 90 cents cheaper on the dollar in Canada.
     
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    You are welcome to start a company making insulin and sell it for less, if you want.
     
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    Probably one of the big reasons is lower levels of legal liability.

    In the pharmaceutical industry, potential risk of legal liability can account for up to 80% of the cost of the medicine.

    The other big expense is all the medical trials to get FDA approval. Even slight variations on existing drugs require a new clinical trial.

    There's also a great deal of protectionism that exists in the US market. The pharma companies send a lot of lobbyists to DC, the pharmaceutical industry was one of the last major industries left in the US that were effectively protected from foreign competition. It's because of all the regulations. Some foreign pharma conpanies have been forced to set up huge clinical research companies in the US just to deal with the FDA regulations and stringent requirements on clinical trials.

    The pill might only cost them 50 cents, but it ends up costing them 5 more dollars per pill to meet all the government regulations on it.

    The regulations are not reciprocal, just becauae it's approved in Germany or Canada doesn't mean anything when trying to take it to US markets.

    Then again, some of that is what you pay for high level quality control. You're welcome to step across the border to Mexico if you want something cheaper.
     
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    In the ad is your answer.
     
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    kazenatus, I hope neither any you love or you get diabetes, and if you do, you have the money you need to treat it.
     
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    BS.
    I buy a couple of my drugs from Canada.
    Same drug, same manufacture, one tenth the cost.
     
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