"Trans" Tinder date stomped to death

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  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    No, that is a very different thing. That's the SAME person, who simply told lies.

    The Trans situation is (if the Trans activists are to be believed) technically two different people - not only different in general appearance, but a different gender and identity. The difference in gender alone is enough to qualify it as sexual assault/rape. If the victim did NOT consent to sex with a man, then he was technically raped by a man.
     
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    it very much is lying about what they are, big difference between married and single to most
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    then lying about not being married is rape
     
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    That's merely a legal status sex is biological.

    I wouldn't consider lying about something that's arbitrary the same as lying about biological reality.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    consent is a legal status, if someone gives them consent because someone lies to you about not being married, ect... that is on them if they did not get to know them better first - the lying is on the other party, and lying to get into someone pants is disgusting no matter what the lie is

    Adultery is one of the top 10 sins
     
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    Being married isn't the biological so it has nothing to do with what you are
     
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    No, it is absolutely not. That is the SAME person, irregardless of lies about status.

    If you consent to person A, but find out later (let's say it was very very dark) you actually had sex with person B, then you were literally raped. You had only consented to sex with person A, but A engaged in a 'swap' to person B without your knowledge.

    This isn't opinion, this is law. This WILL be tested, and it WILL go to rape charges.
     
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    You just don't get it, at all.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    it's just a lie, the person is still the same person, same as lying about being married - both disgusting - neither justifies murder
     
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    I disagree. One of the things we say all the time is that a woman may retract consent at any point up to or during the act of sex. If they can do that, guess what? So can a man.

    As soon as he saw something he didn't like (say a woman with meat and two veg), he could have and should have retracted consent right then and there and noped his butt out of there. Under no circumstances did he have the right to end the life of someone else.
     
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    seems you're the one that doesn't get it, consensual sex is not rape, and it doesn't justify murder

    that said, we don't know if the killer knew or not, that is just what the killer says after the fact, his is the only side of the story we can hear as the victim is dead
     
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    You're speculating on the 'thoughts' of the kid. He was given a blow job by the man/woman. They were probably fully clothed.

    None of which matters, legally speaking. If he only consented to boffing a woman, but it turned out he actually boffed a man .. he was sexually assaulted by that man.
     
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    He did NOT consent, that's the freaking point.
     
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    Imagine showing more sympathy for a murderer than for the murder victim. Just imagine. Disgusting.
     
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    No one is. This is a discussion of the legal implications of a new and growing problem.
     
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    both are the same person, you know that right?
     
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    The OP showed more sympathy for the murderer than for the victim. Please read.
     
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    where did you read that, he even went back to visit a second time afterwards

    maybe he wanted to silence him as the guy said he loved him and wanted everyone to know.... we have no clue what transpired

    the guy could have been tran-curious for all we know, but had regrets later due to how some in society view his actions and feared it going public
     
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    Right. Go tell your local LGBT Activist group (or any Progressive) that transition to another gender and identity isn't real, and that all those transwomen remain 100% male and must be regarded as male always. Let us know how you get on.
     
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    He consented to sex with a WOMAN. He did not consent to sex with a man.
     
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    HIs victim didn't consent to be murdered.
     
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    The kid was raped. He was also a victim.
     
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    This is about the legal implications going forward.
     
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    You don't have to keep stating this doesn't justify murder I never said it did I agreed with you the first time.

    Lying about legal status is not the same as lying about biological reality.

    You can try and draw a comparison between the two things until time stops they are not comparable.
     
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    actually it's the same, people should do neither

    I agree that lying to get in ones pants is wrong, regardless the lie - and the married man is lying to multiple people, putting them at risk of disease without them knowing they are at risk

    but you're assuming he did not know, maybe the killer wanted to have sex with a tran and then feared people finding out, we will never know
     
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