Treatment of terror suspects as enemy combatants...

Discussion in 'Civil Liberties' started by SillyAmerican, Sep 21, 2016.

  1. ArmySoldier

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    Terrorists are literally enemy combatants. They should 100% be treated like them. Not given cushy jail cells with TV and free health care. We need more CIA black sites :)
     
  2. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Anyone connected with terrorism, or strongly supports terrorism, needs to disappear.
     
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    Amen. It's a new type of war. Let's sack up and send all these guys to their virgins.
     
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    Tell me, does american law matter to you at all?

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    And who would determine if they are actually terrorists? What legal representation would they get?

    Or should the US just torture and blind people on a simple accusation with no evidence?
     
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    And so, who gets to determine guilt, legally?
     
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    In other words, nobody with an academic interest in terrorism should be allowed to learn about it.

    How are people supposed to understand a concept that is illegal to teach about?
     
  8. Fred C Dobbs

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    Those who are put in command and armed with the knowledge.
    None.
     
  9. Elcarsh

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    And they are sufficiently omniscient to be able to know with certainty that any given individual is guilty?

    Is that in accordance with the american constitution?

    That was a rhetorical question; I have examined the subject, and it most certainly is not according to the Supreme Court of the United States.
     
  10. AmericanNationalist

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    The beauty of a dictionary! You do not leave the enemy's propaganda, wide open for them to read. That'd be like allowing them to know the Imperial Japanese justification for Pearl Harbor! Look, either the US/Rest of the world is going to take this seriously, or it's not. And if we're not going to take it seriously, it will become "our norm".
     
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    Omniscience is not necessary.
    It is an international war and the government has the wherewithal to act accordingly.
    This is not related to the SCOTUS and, as well, the precedent has already been set. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/23/us-justification-drone-killing-american-citizen-awlaki
     
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    ...or maybe the US justification for the deposing of the government of Iran in the 50's. Or the invasion of Iraq. Or is it only foreign propaganda that should be banned and scrubbed from the internet (an impossibility, by the way)?
     
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    You claim it's an impossibility, and I love these type of claims. It's stupidly easy. See that thing called an ISP? Any ISP caught promoting terrorist propaganda is banned. Any site caught hosting that propaganda will be charged. You see how easy that was? I don't have to tolerate this crap, just because the US Federal Government wants to kick its hind, inefficient puppy dog legs.
     
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    Oh, I do understand completely. You won't tolerate freedom of speech or freedom of the press. You think that going Orwell on certain ideas will actually kill them.

    It's not only unethical, it's also not going to work.
     
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    What's unethical is allowing terrorist propaganda a "safe space". We must deal with terrorism using heavy handed methods, not soft gloves. We'll make sure the legislation follows the legal process. But why is a Swede concerned about US lawmakers able to follow US Law? We're well aware of our laws. What I propose, is perfectly legal. Though yes, stronghanded. But in comparison to animals who behead other humans, I'm quite humane.
     
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    It's quite simple; the US has so far loved using heavyhanded approaches, and has completely and utterly cocked everything up royally.

    Iraq, Iran, Syria, Israel, the US destroys everything it touches, and it is the number one reason why all this terrorism exists in the first place.

    Would you kindly stop cocking everything up?!
     
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    So Muslims are murdering innocent people all over the world because of the Eisenhower Administrator?
     
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    In fact Americans are doing okay and have a history of doing so. Were you turned down for a Green Card?
     
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    The US is the reason why Al Qaida and ISIS exist to begin with. And how many thousands of people died from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan?

    The world is cocked up, and it was the US that did it.

    Sorry, I don't play golf.
     
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    Hahahahaha. Someone's jealous. And the US has been using a heavy handed approach over the last few decades, then you have absolutely no idea son. Take Iraq for instance. That was as soft handed as it can get. You want to see heavy handed? Keep pissing us off. Europe is due for a wake up call.
     
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    No actually radical Islamists are. Period. I bet you don't even know how, when or where those groups were formed.

    Not nearly as many as could have.

    Actually the world has always been "cocked up" and in actuality it's mainly you stuck up Europeans faults. Hell the majority of the conflicts in the Mid East and Africa are a direct result of the effects of WW1 and WW2 or European colonialism. You Euros sure "(*)(*)(*)(*) up" every place you step foot in.
     
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    How do they exactly know that he is an ISIS sympathizer or combatant?
    If there is some irrefutable proof that will not migrate the issue into prejudice?
     
  24. Fred C Dobbs

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    In fact, as so often happen, it's Muslim killing Muslims which is the problem, or any Kaffirs they may want to murder. They're as bad as the Europeans where there always seems to be a war of some sort going on..
    In fact the democracies are doing just fine. The Third World, largely because of their preference for indoctrination rather than education, will continue to be Third World, with Islam pointing the way. Of course the Americans will be blamed by the leftists for all of this, despite the generous assistance of the American people over the decades.
     
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    The American people are grateful to those Europeans who had the foresight to leave and start a new country. That was Europe's first serious 'brain drain'. Their wars did the rest to extinguish trillions of grey cells more, with just scattered handfuls remaining, mostly in the east.

    Now this generation has decided to extinguish their culture and their baby-deficient future to give Islam a chance. And why not? Nazism, Communism and Fascism all turned out rather badly for everyone so perhaps going full burka is the answer to their general dissatisfaction with each other. They've needed some excitement since the IRA went squishy and the Basques settled down. Plus the Eurovision song contest just didn't cut it anymore.
     

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