Trump’s 30 biggest broken promises.

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  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    You may not like the source Trump supporters but it’s all true. From no border wall, to DOJ no longer protecting preexisting conditions if states water them down to lower actual pay after inflation adjustment, to no infrastructure program to no closing business tax loopholes, to no repeal of the ACA and replace with somthing beautiful ,.... you bought it all. Check them all out.

    https://www.alternet.org/trumps-30-broken-promises
     
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    Ain't been broke until he is no longer president bub.
     
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    Yep, he's still over 2 years left lol.

    But as usual, if he didn't accomplish it in the first hour on day one then it must be a lie.
     
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    He had his two years.....you think Dens will fund the wall ? Republicans refused when they were in control. How much was budgeted for it. The budget is in. That’s not changing. The deficit is in, that’s not changing.
     
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    Deficits change with frequency. And if Trump gets a second Term with a republican house and senate bereft of most of the Trump hating neocons then what? In the meantime Trump will use the Caravans as an excuse to lay acres of concertina wire along the border, It may not be a wall but I doubt very many people are going to want to try to low crawl through 40 yards of that stuff while carrying a baby.
     
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    So, you're counting on Trump changing his mind. It’s the GOP with Trumps signature that brought about all of these 30 items,
    They could have passed any before the Dems took the house.
     
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    Trump addressed his wall as one of his very first items, even got some funding for it so it wasn't his lie.

    He also has a massive infrastructure bill currently held up in congress.

    Not sure about your other items but Trump has addressed every one of his campaign promises so far.

    He hasn't ignored any of them.
     
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    Just like tax cuts for EVERY GOP president and gop Congress that passed them. Deficits ALWAYS got bigger. Bush, bush, Reagan, always increased deficits when in office. Obama, Clinton and even Carter, reduced theirs.
    Everyone of the GOp presidents had 1-2 recessions.
     
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    And without tax cuts they still got bigger. Everything under Carter got bigger interest rates deficits the unemployment rate everything but paychecks Reagan and the first Bush had a congress full of Rinos and Democrats
     
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    So, now your blaming his ineptitude as a CEO. has and his lack if ability to move a congress he had full control over. He could have EASILY insisted no signature till the items were in. Niw you’re saying...he’s a terrible CEO.

    He has the power of the pen .....repealing exemptions for high income was easy. Repealing Obamacare was easy...the house already did it umpteen Times.

    Clinton had a stand off with the opposite party insisting in a balanced budget.....

    Addressed items. Sure. He’s instructed his DIJ not to infirce significant conditions. Does that sound like he’s isn’t luring.

    Nothing said holds water.
     
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    The recession under President Reagan was simply a continuation of the recession that began when Carter was president. A classic "W" shaped recession.
     
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    You need to study the difference between deficit and debt, come back when you figure it outl
     
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    Ha ha....classic only for republicans.
    and the second one.....and the one under a Bush one, and the biggy under a Bush two after being given a Budget SURPLUS.
     
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    Trump is a great CEO but congress doesn't work for him like his employees do.

    They are a totally different company.

    And most of this stuff he can't do on his own, he needs congress to do it so what more do you expect of him?

    Congress is beholden to their constituents, not the president no matter what letter they have behind their name.

    And Clinton did horrible in the beginning with congress until he completely caved in.

    They he was able to work with them.

    Its like Obama promising to close Gitmo, he tried but that power ultimately rests with congress and they refused him.

    Do you blame Obama for being a bad CEO for not getting that done?
     
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    The deficit under Trump will be much, much worse then projected now and this is bad enough. The GOP instituted dynamic scoring, a math canard to make the deficit appear smaller. Just like when Bush one put two wars on a supplemental budget to hide his deficit in an accounting trick, it proved to be much worse.
     
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    Trump was a great CEO ? He had so many bankruptcies, he was forced to get financing with laundered monies from Rusian oligarchs. His own son bragged about that. Trump U...perfect example. He’s so dishonest , he refuses to release his taxes...
    Now you’re claiming he ran for president and made promises without knowing how hard governance is. I will buy that,

    Imo, he made promises like the “big beautiful health care system,” simply because.....he lies continuously for his own advantage.,
    Keep thinking Mexico will pay for a now 700 mile fence.

    As long as we reduce expectations down to zero, he’ll then magically become truthful.
     
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    With all due respect, it sounds like his followers are blaming the GOP...his own party. Trump is the master of enunciating a pity party for himself. He doesn’t need any help.
     
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    Every single presidents underestimates how difficult the job is.

    There is no way to prepare for the job of being president, there simply is nothing like it so each of them must learn on the job.

    And you are confusing campaign rhetoric with actions taken while president.

    To Trumps credit, right out of the gate, he made movement on every single one of his campaign promises, the quickest any president in our history ever has.

    Unfortunately he has a horrible congress.

    It would help if the democrats would allow some things to be put on the table for negotiation but they are simply dead set on "no" for everything the president wants meaning he had to rely on republicans and they obviously were not ready to play ball either.
     
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    I haven't had much good to say about the current crop of GOP members for a long time.

    Unlike liberals I actually have the ability to criticize my own party.
     
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    I already know I'm not sure you do.
     
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    Well, Obama got the most landmark healthcare legislation passed since Medicare with a difficult congress and no exorrience Obamacare is now more popular then it has ever been. Simply because, people don’t want to die in the name of corporate profit, Clinton had the longest period of growth and actually balanced two budgets with no congressional help.....he had to shut down the govt. to keep “ costs “ down. He left as one of the most popular presidents ever in spite of getting hummers while conducting the business of being president.
    Tharp ability has always befuddled republicans.
     
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    Actually it was congress that balanced it, not Clinton, he fought them to begin with.

    Obama barely got his healthcare passed with a supermajority even.

    Do you forget the backroom deals he had to make to get it done?

    And Obamacare isn't popular, its considered nothing more than another healthcare option out there, just one provided by the government.

    Its certainly just as expensive as any of the other ones which was obviously a lie told by the democrats.

    You know as well as I do that they made all sort of promises about the ACA that never materialized.

    And by the way, corporate profits went up after Obamacare, after all, they wrote the bill.
     
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    I criticized Dems so much, I became an independent. I voted for several GOP candidates, including Bush one. TRUMP is such an aberration imo, it’s now, all hands on the progressive deck.

    In case no one noticed, the rest of the free world believes in climate change, reasonable gun control, universal healthcare and affordable higher education. . In case no one noticed, Bernie is NOT a wide eyed liberal. He’s a moderate on the world stage.

    In case no one noticed, the world us getting so small and interconnected, it’s insane being an isolationist and nationalist.
     
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    Well I do not know your history so my apologies if any of my assumptions were inaccurate.

    You do seem like a reason headed fella although we could definitely work on some things.

    :)
     
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    Clinton ? No actually when Clinton had congress the first two years, they passed strick limits on budget increases with no help from the gop. In case you forgot, Clinton threatened and engaged in a gov. . shut down vs the GOP lead congress to get his balanced budget passed. In order to get his agenda through, he did give up an important pearl of regulatory system....Glass Steagall
     
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