Trump’s history-making hush-money trial begins ...(Mod Warning)

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  1. Nemesis

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    LOL! Uh, wasn't the payment to her an underlying crime?
     
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    Feds have no jurisdiction in this case.
     
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    Such strong opinions regarding matters you know nothing about.
     
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    Texts show National Enquirer editor's attempt at reviving Daniels deal in 2016
    Georgia Longstreet, a paralegal at the district attorney's office, read more messages between National Enquirer editor Dylan Howard and Stormy Daniels' publicist Gina Rodriguez on October 25, 2016.

    Howard: "Ok. I blew a gasket at this people and told them not to f**k with people. Message made and heard."

    "I had to apologize to my CEO," Howard messaged on the same day. "I explained that 2 people saved his a** today and I'm leading this call with his people and I'm going to tell them how it's going to be."

    Rodriguez responded: "Thank you so much do you think it will happen"

    Howard: "Yes. They were told in no uncertain terms"

    Howard added: "I'm not going to burn my lifelong contacts for these f**kers"



    16 min ago
    Stormy Daniels' publicist and National Enquirer discuss deal in 2016 texts
    Further texts between Stormy Daniels' former publicist and National Enquirer editor Dylan Howard on October 17, 2016 show them discussing the deal not happening.

    Here's what they said:

    Rodriguez: "We're not doing the Trump deal"
    Howard: "Keith gave me a heads up. What happened?"
    Rodriguez: "They didn't pay when they said they would and they keep trying to buy more time. Daily Mail wants it bad so we're doing it."
    Howard: "Fair call"
    Howard: "They're (sic) loss"
    For context: These messages give the jury firsthand information from both Rodriguez and Howard via their texts about what was going on in 2016, even though neither has testified at this trial.

    20 min ago
    Messages show negotiations for Daniels' story
    A series of text messages between Stormy Daniels' then-publicist Gina Rodriguez and former National Enquirer editor Dylan Howard regarding their negotiations for Daniels' story were introduced to jurors today.

    Here are those messages:

    Howard: "I can get 100"
    Rodriguez: "Lol"
    Rodriguez: "Ok what about 150"
    Howard: "110"
    Rodriguez: "125k"
    Howard: "lol"
    Howard: "120"
    Rodriguez: "Sold"


    23 min ago
    Daniels' publicist tells National Enquirer editor she is willing to confirm her story on record, texts show
    The texts that are being read have now moved into October 2016, when Stormy Daniels' former publicist Gina Rodriguez tells then-National Enquirer editor Dylan Howard that Daniels is willing to confirm her story on the record.

    On October 8, 2016, Rodriguez texted: "Stormy Daniels and Trump with her [REDACTED LINES] is up on the Dirty and Fox News has been calling Stormy has not confirmed or spoken are you interested?"

    Howard asks Rodriguez to email him the pitch so he can elevate it to then-CEO David Pecker. "He likely will pay," Howard texts, with Rodriguez writing, "250k."

    https://www.cnn.com/
     
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    Calls between Cohen and others are introduced into evidence


    Jaden Jarmel-Schneider is now confirming that the exhibits are calls between people like Dylan Howard, Keith Davidson, Gina Rodriguez and other witnesses.

    Calls between Michael Cohen and Dylan Howard, Cohen and David Pecker, Cohen and Keith Schiller, and Cohen and Allen Weisselberg are also among those analyzed.

    The exhibits are being introduced into evidence.

    6 min ago
    Paralegal goes through details about how report was prepared
    Jaden Jarmel-Schneider is now going through how he prepared the report.

    He's going into details like how they normalized the time zones from the different carriers.



    9 min ago
    Jury sees paralegal's report detailing contact information
    Jaden Jarmel-Schneider prepared a report to show which phone numbers were associated with which people and where the phone numbers show up in evidence.

    The report is being shown to the jury.

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    Prosecutors going through document showing Cohen-Weisselberg calls


    The first document prosecutors are now going through shows calls between Michel Cohen and Allen Weisselberg.

    The document includes times in both ET and UTC, who the call was from, who it was to and the duration of the call.

    2 min ago
    Trump highlighting document as paralegal is on the stand
    As another paralegal from the Manhattan district attorney's office is on the witness stand, Donald Trump is leaning his elbows on the defense table, using a yellow highlighter to highlight lines on a piece of paper in front of him.

    He appears to be reading the document and periodically highlighting parts of it, according to journalists in the courtroom. He does not appear to be engaged with what is happening with the witness on the stand.


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    Correct, the payment, not the affair. Actual affair or fabricated allegation of an affair makes NO difference under the law.
     
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    Muller's a Republican.
    They work for ALL Americans. It speaks to the seriousness of the crime(s) when law enforcement dispatches with long guns.
    My father's generation would be appalled that a former president was being searched and indicted for crimes committed while president. They would be aghast if someone even brought up the possibility.

    "The Man" was a term my generation used for "Narc's" (narcotics agents). My dopper peers were always worried about getting arrested for using drugs that are legal today. Personally I never liked the ****, but it was, becoming, popular when I was young. I never thought it was cool, friends of our family were on the force.
     
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    13m ago / 12:05 PM EDT

    The last witness for today's proceedings has taken the stand.

    Jaden Jarmel-Schneider is a paralegal in the New York District Attorney's office and was assigned to Trump's case. He testified that he helps with setting up subpoenas and analyzing records for the case.

    The prosecution is asking him about records that he reviewed for Trump's case, including records from Michael Cohen's phone calls, emails and calendar invites.

    18m ago / 12:00 PM EDT
    Paralegal from DA's office authenticates texts about Stormy Daniels


    After a lengthy time with prosecutors where a paralegal in the District Attorney's Office, Georgia Longstreet, read the contents of multiple text messages between National Enquirer editor Dylan Howard and Stormy Daniels' publicist Gina Rodriguez, Longstreet is now done testifying.

    She was also asked by Blanche, Trump's attorney, about social media accounts she did not review, like Michael Cohen's TikTok account.

    https://www.cnn.com/
     
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    Actual affair or fabricated allegations of an affair makes no difference whatsoever under the law.
     
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    Don't you get it? This is about motive. Why he did everything he did paying hush money and covering it up. It's embarrassing? Exactly! That's why he paid to cover it up. Trump is lucky the trial is not televised. That's what we would get if the point was to put him in a bad light.... or have the most-watched TV trial since OJ Simpson.
     
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    Her testimony was relevant to showing that he didn’t want her to talk before the election. That his motivation was the election.
    Which goes to the point of whether he was trying to commit a crime by hiding the payment from the campaign disclosures.
    It goes to whether the fraudulent records charge is a misdemeanour or a felony.

    A criminal case is made with lots of little bricks.
     
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    Such strong accusations about knowledge YOU know nothing about.
     
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    But motive does.
     
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    Sure it does. Was the payment intended to sway (or not turn away) voters of the 2016 election? That's shown by discussing what information he was trying to cover up.
     
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    His motivations would be the same if it was a completely fabricated story.
    Trump paid the Trump Tower Doorman to shut up about a completely fabricated story that he fathered a child with the housekeeper. Whether the affair occured or not is simply irrelevant.
     
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    His motivations would be the same if it was a completely fabricated story.
    Trump paid the Trump Tower Doorman to shut up about a completely fabricated story that he fathered a child with the housekeeper. Whether the affair occurred or not is simply irrelevant.
     
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    It’s relevant to his intent. I’ve told you already that relevance is NOT as narrow as you imagine it is. Trump falsified his records to obscure an affair which otherwise would have become public on the heels of his ***** grabbing recording.
     
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    Hmm. Apparently, the court also ruled that you’re wrong.
     
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    He would have an equal motive to keep quiet a fabricated allegation that cannot be proven or disproven with anything other than testimony of the two people behind closed doors. No difference whatsoever under the law.
     
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    Not when it comes to establishing motive.
    You said that already.
     
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    Why are you making such a point of saying that claim is false?
     
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    Motive is the same whether the allegation is false or true.
     
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    See Nemesis' post #2551
     
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    Now you’re a mind reader, too?
     
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