Trump 41%, Clinton 39%

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  1. Vegas giants

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    They are only wrong 50 percent of the time. Lol
     
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    What is a great record? Everything is retaliative. They were one of the closest in 2008. Easily the best in 2004 when so many had Kerry winning it. Rasmussen still made a correct prediction 49-48 ± 3% with 3% undecided is a correct prediction.
     
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    It's not about rides, it's about the dems using their uneducated unemployed constituency for votes and then leaving them in their ghettos and ignoring them till the next time they are needed to vote.
     
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    How dare the Democrats fight to give food and money to the poor? Don't they know the rich need another tax cut? Lol
     
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    There's nothing wrong with that as long as an agenda is not being used (at the same time) to manipulate.
     
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    Well, to quote their methodology:
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/about_us/methodology
     
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    Liberals have such a reactionary view to their politics, it's no wonder that we've declined. I don't think Liberals have ever forwarded a policy that was truly "progressive"(IE: Ahead of its time) which is quite ironic. If those Muslims, Mexicans, etc want to attain a better life, they know what they have to do: Improve their Muslim countries, and improve Mexico. America's not their hotel(and certainly not a hotel they can trash.)

    The free ride's over. I'm sorry to say. Reform Birthright citizenship so that it's a "birth right" to ACTUAL American Citizens. Not someone who can come over, say "Oh, I had a baby. It's now entitled to American Citizenship." Remember the argument for Universal Health Care? "The rest of the world has it!" Well, the rest of the world also moved away from birthright citizenship, so how do you like those apples?

    The new rules should be retroactively applied to 1985. If you crossed the border illegally, you're NOT a citizen. Get out, stay out and stop using the resources that SHOULD belong to US Citizens. You see, as a taxpayer you are OWED more then some scrub coming over overseas. It is NOT our tradition to be plundered, nor was it the hope when we had a real immigration system.
     
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    Because he's a dem.
     
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    I heard recently they were tied, I think at 39
    This poll builds into the idea of a tight race but, given the long history of her huge leads, I'm still skeptical. It's possible to have two bad outliers in a row.
     
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    See what I mean? Leave the Reagan years behind, I want a America that moves forward, not backward. It's time to stop living in the past, and to start living looking to the future.

    It actually makes perfect sense if you are born to a American mother, but that mother was impregnated while in England, for instance, you still qualify as a American naturalized citizen. We need to forget about that birther bullsh*t Trump brought up on both Obama and Cruz. There's no need to make a change to what qualifies and what doesn't qualify as "Birth Right" citizenship. Germany has a similar system for both birth and marriage. Bruce Willis, for instance, was born in Germany, but was deemed a American citizen because one of his parents was American.

    Let the 1980's be, its part of the past, and its not meant to be resurrected.
     
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    If they like Obama, they're sure as hell not going to vote for Trump.
     
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    That is literally the ONLY poll showing Trump ahead. Even with that poll counted, Hillary's average lead is 6.7%:
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...s/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

    Nice cherry-picking, OP. Way to destroy your credibility.
     
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    Do you understand what the term "retroactively" means? I'm saying that the new law will cover past violators, who have the distinction of "US Citizen" that they do not deserve.(Maybe, adding a little leeway for those who've actually paid taxes and are productive). Your "America that moves forward" is poorer, more expensive to live in and has more people in slums than at any point in its history.

    Frankly, I want to stop us from "moving forward" off a cliff, because your hearts and minds feel obligated to give everything to EVERYONE but a US Citizen. It's as if, in your mind it counts to be last to be an American. Neither Obama nor any other Liberal has(or can) make an argument for these people, other than "it wouldn't be right". Then, is it right for US Citizens to be disenfranchised?

    Trump/Sanders voters are Americans who recognize they're disenfranchised. People like you, advocate for our collective disenfranchisement which means our government today is closer to our colonist days, then that of a representative Republic or democracy. So if you don't want to return to the 1980's, that's fine. I'm tired of returning to the days of Colonist America, where we'd be taxed without representation.

    I'm tired of having our jobs outsourced to the cheapest labor pool they can find, and if that doesn't work they then import these cheap so-called "immigrants" to work for dirt. Disenfranchising(there's that word again) literally thousands of US Citizens. Every American should hate a Liberal to the deepest core of their spine. Because not a single Liberal will stop our disenfranchisement.
     
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    If you think trump has the power to change this you are delusional
     
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    I think Congress, with the voice of the president can change this. After all, Obama and crew got the ACA together right? It just depends whether the Republicans can keep Congress, and if they do, are they willing to seriously tackle reform?

    The Republicans running from Trump, are the same ones who ran from Obama. They're the ones who'll lose anyway because they have nothing to fall back on.
     
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    And she is a sadistic little warmonger that giggled over her splendid little war that ended with the leader of Libya murdered and sodomized with a knife.

    And now refugees are massed in Libya, pouring into Western Europe and ISIS has a major presence in the failed state.

    She is sick, fat, ugly, corrupt and unappealing. It may be that after the election it will be clear that we could have run Donald Duck and beat her in the general election. She is probably the worst candidate Democrats could have picked. They should have gone with Gore, Kerry, Warren, Sanders or even Biden.

    Maybe she has pictures of the Democrat Establishment in compromising positions with farm animals? I really don't get it. When she obtains the nomination at the convention, the look on her face will not be unlike the look on the Wicked Stepmother after she tricked Snow White into eating the poisoned apple.

    And if she does manage to win, she is so corrupt that she will spend her entire Presidency wrapped up in impeachment proceedings with Paul Ryan effectively running the country.
     
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    Well, maybe we need to think outside the box to get people living out of slums, create programs that will make employment much more attainable. In addition, maybe for the higher cost of labor in the US, one can find it reasonable to pay a bit more of a premium for a product made at home, over some cheap gimmick made in the far east. Guitars are a great example. Gibson's cost a much higher premium than their counterpart, Epiphone's, because Gibson's are made in America. But in exchange, you get a high quality item that will last for decades over cheap (*)(*)(*)(*) made in China.

    And I'm sorry, but to say "every American should hate a Liberal to the deepest core of their spine," is quite spiteful and shallow on your part.
     
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    It's only as spiteful and shallow as Liberals have been over 8 years, and it's every bit righteously deserved. If you knew what that party put me through, you'd know what my vendetta is. I think the Dems are rotten to the core, even worse than the GOP and we need a replacement. Promote the Greens if you want a left-of-center agenda without their racial divide and conquer strategy, and their oppression of those they don't like.
     
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    Look at this hate. Is this america? It blinds you. You can not even see the real america. You are in for a wake up call
     
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    Don't overdramatize this. This poll together with polls from Ohio, republican polls from Oregon, Indiana, California merely proves that Trump is surging, that the race has tightened and is dead heat now and that Hillary's substantial advantage has all but evaporated. Whether Trump is up 2 points or Hillary is up 3 points is immaterial, the trend is. The first poll in months showing Trump ahead is certainly a newsworthy enough event to start a thread about.
     
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    Look at the Real Clear Politics trendline on Trump v. Clinton. He isn't surging. He's getting a dead-cat bounce from his worst polling in six months. Hillary's lead over him is the best it has been since August or September.
     
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    Hillary was up 17-24% last summer, she was up 10-18% in virtually all polls throughout the entire March and first week of April. Now she is more like up 7, up 3, up 11, down 2 in latest (last 2 weeks) polls. She went from double digit lead in early April to single digit at best, dead heat at worst today.
     
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    If you read the post has nothing to do with Reagan. Your response makes as much sense as a dog drooling.

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    The moment Trump hits back her numbers drop like a stone. Its exactly what happened in the early part of this year. She apparently didn't learn her lesson.
     
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    That was mostly before the primaries even got started. Trump didn't even announce his candidacy until mid-June. The first caucus (Iowa) wasn't until February of this year.

    Um, no she wasn't. Look at the averages. Her biggest lead in the average during that time was 11.4%. Her lead in March/April ranged as low as 3%.

    The averages tell a different story. She still has one of her biggest leads of the entire race. You were probably saying "Trump is surging!" back around Feb. 1, when he was running dead even with Hillary. The gap immediately widened again. Or maybe you were saying "Trump is surging!" back on March 1, when he was within 3%?
     

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