Trump Accuses Democrats Of 'Executing Babies After Birth

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They don't terminate life support when that individual has a near 100% chance of making a full recovery.
     
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    And born babies who are healthy are not "ripped out of the womb and torn to pieces".
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They actually are in a few cases.

    Mostly by very irresponsible women.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    And born babies who are healthy are not "ripped out of the womb and torn to pieces".




    No, they are not...

    And even if they were that is no reason to take away people's right to their own body.
     
  5. kazenatsu

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    How about people's right to their life?
     
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    Who is proposing taking away people's right to their life? I mean besides Anti-Choicers...
     
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    So we've conveniently defined the unborn as non-people, have we?

    It's all okay as long as we don't refer to them as "persons", or "babies"

    It's a semantic argument.
     
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    A fetus has never been a person...it isn't one until birth as you should know by now....it has nothing to do with "convenience, but has a lot to do with science and law and facts.

    So, again, Who is proposing taking away people's right to their life? I mean besides Anti-Choicers...
     
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    a fetus is an individual human being... you can define "person" to mean whatever you want.
     
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    NOPE, ya can't..

    A legal person is one who has been born and has rights, the unborn do NOT have rights.
     
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    I can almost guarantee that Trump or his kids have paid women to get abortions ... the history of lying and cheating on his spouse makes it highly likely.
     
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    I am a liberal Democrat & Pro-Choice supporter. No, it is NOT OK to kill a baby--ever, period. I know of no liberal or Democrat or Pro-Choice supporter, anywhere who thinks it is. But I do know a compulsive liar President of the U.S. who believes--accurately--that some of his non-thinking supporters will believe anything he tells them, no matter how big a lie it is. Are you one of them?
     
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    Trump Accuses Democrats Of 'Executing Babies After Birth
    Trump is an inveterate, consummate liar. No Democrat I've ever known would even consider such an action. No Pro-Choice supporter supports such an action. No Pro-Choice law anywhere, anytime has ever supported such a morbid action. These kinds of lies do nothing but harm & divide our people unnecessarily. Shame on Trump. Shame on anyone gullible enough to believe him. :(
     
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    That is what they were so giddy about when the law passed. That a doctor can now snuff out a baby even after he or she is born.

    Cuomo had a sickening demonic grin from ear to ear!
     
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    this begs the obvious question, then what was the point in passing the law?
     
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    To legally codify what was already being done by doctors and hospitals ... non-viable children are allowed to die a natural death. That was hospital's Best Practices before the law - now they have protection of law for what was already being done. No different than families deciding to let an elderly relative die a natural death. We have the technology to keep a body functioning until it rots around the tubes, but that is not a "good" medical practice.
     
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    What a crock! That isn’t even close to what this was designed to do. Non viable fetuses were already legally abortable.
     
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    A liberal yes. Not a lefty. There is a difference. The democrat party is moving left from liberal. Liberals defend free speech, lefties try to curtail it. Know the difference.
     
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    Have you even read the law? Or are YOU just believing what your chosen politicians are telling YOU???
     
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    The unborn have had rights until the New York strain of the abortion virus came in.
     
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    Where did the unborn have rights/?

    When?

    How?

    And, Duh, there was abortion long before there was a New York...…...
     
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    I don't believe for even a second that Trump has never caused an abortion.
     
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    Heavy sigh, not full term baby abortion!!!!!
    And yes, that Is what New York now allows.

    You know they had rights before, we have been through this a hundred times . Once again read the UVVA. Children in utero AT ANY STAGE of DEVELOPMENT are specifically protected!!!!!!
     
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    Yes, DUH but the word "right" is not the word "protection"
    See, they made two different words because they have different meanings....

    I NEVER "knew" they had rights because they never did have rights....you saying so REALLY doesn't make it true...

    IF fetuses have rights why haven't you taken your "case" to the Supreme Court? Why hasn't anyone ? :) :)
     
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    Interesting post. I'm not sure I do know the difference you're referring to, but you have my curiosity aroused. I fully support free speech, along with all the other Bill of Rights, but I'd like to see them expanded--especially to cover ALL AMERICANS, not just white ones, not just males, and not just heterosexuals. :)
     

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