Trump claimed Brett Kavanaugh was 'proven innocent' of claims he sexually assaulted Christine Blasey

No the evidence said otherwise and refuted the baseless allegation. The evidence is the party never happened and his contemporaneous evidence alibied him. By your thinking no one is innocent of anything. We may as well get rid of the word.

 

Relevent to the boss and his board of directors ... the ones who hired him. Dissenting board members are mad, no one cares. No one cares about the mob or who they vote for. Members all over PF swearing the mob is representing the die hard liberal fringe that always votes DNC. No loss. I'm an (I) and the DNC definitely decided my vote ... again. Even a win in the house yields nothing. Not worried. Kavanaugh stays.

 

Read post #71 and think critically............it's self explanatory when put into context.

 

You'd think anyone would take issue with a lying president but not trumpkins. I think they prefer to be lied to.

They surely take issue with anyone noticing the lying president, though. That irks them, I suppose because it brings up the hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance.

 

Equating serving private interests with serving public interests is flawed thinking from the get go. Ponder that, tks.

 

Yep, I agree with you. Trump said something stupid (again). It was a meaningless gaff, even if trump really does believe kavanaough has proof of his innocence. I mean, we all know trump isn't exactly a card carrying Mensa member.

 

You mean like record low unemployment, replacement of NAFTA, N.Korea's seeming cooperation, and manufacturing returning to America?

 

No! By my thinking it's really ****ing hard to prove innocence, sometimes impossible (even if one IS innocent). Which is why we require the burden of proof of guilt. Do you see?

 

Well, Kavanaugh was not proven guilty which is the same as been proven innocent. What is the matter with you Liberals? Can’t you think for yourself without talking points?

 

No, it is not. Not in any sense of the terms.

 

You and I both know that your whole issue with Kavanaugh is that he might decide whether a POTUS can be charged with obstruction, or prosecuted while in office. The least worrisome kind of SCOTUS, per a patriots viewpoint, is a majority originalist SCOTUS, who doesn't interpret, but upholds the constitution. Kavanaugh won't even have the opportunity to uphold the applicable provisions, because Rosenstein made the DOJ's position clear. The DOJ will not indict a sitting president. Trump won't be indicted, or impeached, and Kavanaugh has nothing to do with that.

 

LMAO no it's actually not the same. OJ was not proven guilty. Was he innocent?

 

People prove they are innocent all the time. The Idea that once merely accused you can never be considered innocent is absurd. Again we may as well get rid of the word.

 

You just not gonna give up, will you? An associate justice Kavanaugh will never have another job interview. Get it?

He’s been investigated by the FBI what? Seven times? Give it up already?

 

I’m sure many liberals will see it the way you do

But Kavanaugh is a SC justice because there are too few that agree

 

Stop with the childish strawman arguments. I consider Kavanaugh innocent, I think most people do. That's a far cry from it being "proven". Words do matter. Thorough logic IS important. Try it sometime.

 

It may have been a good point if he was not proven guilty.

He was. The jury was fixed, the judge was fixed, LA has decided that it does not want to burn, and fixed the jury and the court.

That’s all there is to it.

 

You may play with words all you want; Justice Kavanaugh was not proven guilty, so he’s innocent. Anything else is irrelevant.

 

It was a legal matter under the constitution under which he could be charged with a crime. Just because someone alleges you committed a crime does not forever eliminate your innocence of the accusation.

 

Well apply the same argument to a case that falls outside of your little conspiratorial sphere. Guilty people get off ALL THE TIME because their guilt can't be proven. Capone went to trial at least 2 times before he was convicted. Was he innocent?

 

Reality.........sorry. Any claims of his guilt are without merit or evidence.

 

Ok, your post #71

What makes America different than other 'banana republics' around the world is our firm belief that a person is innocent until proven guilty. It transcendes just the criminal system of justice into our civil society...Think of it...What kind of country would we be living in when the mere allegation of one person could end any of our lives as we know it, without having to set forth any proof that the allegation is true....

If we allow this narrative to stand as proper, Lord help any of us from unscrupulous people in everyday life who may hold the slightest of grudges against any one of us....Many like to cite that the studies done on the subject of sexual assault frequently show that 8% or less of reported cases are a result of false outcry. Imagine if the presumption of innocence were stripped away....What might that do to false accusations? It is because we are presumed innocent against charges that the false outcry rates are so low....

Remember our Constitution? It still matters here in America. This is why the sixth and seventh amendments to our Constitution are vital. It is up to the accuser to prove guilt. How different America would be if it was the other way around. But wait a minute, isn’t this what many are doing? It absolutely is — and it’s killing us. It’s killing what America has been, up until this point.

 

Exactly right, Mr. Strawman! Good job. Here's your gold star.
Now, want to engage an argument that someone is actually making?

 

Innocent of what? The crimes they could not convict him of?

Of course.

 

That is exactly what is happening here what is the strawman?