Trump denies official coronavirus death rate based on his 'hunch' and suggests

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  1. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    So you have no quote of Trump calling me a hoax and that is the point.

    Trump defenders routinely, and you have done so here, defend trump by arguing that trump did not say something solely because he did not phrase it in a manner that they recognize. So it is like playing whack a mole every time Trump does say something objectionable like here when he called the WHO conclusions a false number based on a hunch. That happened. But defenders on this thread have jumped to his defense by saying that he instead made some sort of well-reasoned argument based on a data point for which the WHO and others are intimately aware. Trump also did suggest that people can go to work while sick with the coronavirus. That happened. But defenders on this thread have jumped to his defense by arguing that he did not say that they should go. Trump did use the word hoax while discussing the virus. That happened. But defenders on this thread have jumped to his defense by saying that he called me a hoax.
     
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    I'm going to say this without any political motive.

    Please remember there are people who look healthy who suffer from immune disorders. They absolutely should not be exposed to the virus. So while you may be ok to work, you are NOT OK to be AT work.
     
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    If you don't have corona virus when you go to the doctor you might have it after two hours in the crowded waiting room.

    If you go just stare at the wall, for sure don't thumb through any magazines.
     
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    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    According to people who have been proven to make stuff up.

    There are no innocents, there.

    Why do you defend their lies?
     
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    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm not understanding your point.

    Each and every one might be infected without knowing it. If everyone stopped going to work, what would happen?

    Should all police refuse to fight crime?

    Should all firefighters refuse to fight fires?

    Should utility workers refuse to provide us with electricity?
     
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    If your fricken sick. Stay the **** home. It’s not rocket science.
     
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    Your immune disorder is your problem, not mine. I’m not going to detour my life because you might get sick. Survival of the fittest and it’s natures way. The cheetah catches the weakest game. It guarantees the rest of the heard is strong.
     
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    And if you don't know that you're sick, you will still infect people. It ain't rocket science.

    Instead of appeoaching the subject with the tiresome Orangemanbad tripe, why not discuss the subject rationally?

    According to the experts, a person might be infected, and contagious, for as long as three weeks without knowing it. Are you anti-science?
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    It's like a boss i had used to say. "Use your ****** sick days. If you don't, they'll just take them away next year. There's too many of us anyway but we can't let management know that. We don't need you when we're healthy, so you sure better not be here when you're sick "
     
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    I never brought up Trump. I never blamed trump, never accused Trump.

    Your immediate auto Trump defense system is broken. You are no longer able to have rational conversation at this point.

    Wow your a horrible human being. That is all.
     
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    The Trumpers are going to kill us all, but it will be in the Holy Cause of Making Donald Look Good Again so let's not hear any complaints about the death of humanity
     
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    Well... there's that; and you are right on that point and I was wrong.

    But you still didn't respond to my point.

    The experts are saying that people can be infected, and contagious, for as long as three weeks before showing symptoms.

    Can you come up with a method, to prevent the spread, other than the entire citizenry of the world staying in quarantine?
     
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    Doesn’t matter. You have to assume your good if you don’t have symptoms. If have symptoms all I asked was stay away from people. Jesus can people do anything to at least try?
     
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    You have yet to even describe a single lie.
     
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    Smart people are staying away from others so that they, themselves, don't get infected. Their self-defense instincts will help to prevent them spreading their unknown infection to others.

    I'm still not getting your point. It comes across as an irrational desire to pin blame, for whatever, on others.
     
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    LOL. This post, that I quote here, is another one.

    Read your thread.
     
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    Since Trump is such a renowned medical "expert", I wonder If he has a "hunch" about cures (for other incurable diseases)?

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    The hunch ~ red bar ~ 23.35 mark.
    Go to work with the virus ~ red bar ~ 24.13 mark.
     
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    Seems pretty simple to me. What Trump said is a signal to all that it is quite okay to go to work. The alternative would have been for him to say that sick people should not go to work as doing so is an immediate health risk to everyone and thing they come into contact with.
     
  20. Thought Criminal

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    You can, of course, make whatever claim that you wish.
     
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    If anything's going to kill us in the near future it would be the corona virus. But so far it doesn't look all that virulent. The old guy who survived it in quarantine in TN said for him it was like a mild case of the flu.

    afaik there's 12 deaths in the US since Trump imposed travel bans on Jan. 31.

    In South Korea it is .6% and probably going lower:

    https://www.businessinsider.com/south-korea-coronavirus-testing-death-rate-2020-3

    SK has a low death rate because of doing more testing. As the US ramps up testing the death rate likely will decline significantly also.
     
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    Only if I want to look like an idiot.

    I posted this:

    Is there something in what I said you disagree with? If so, say so, and why.
     
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    "Is there something in what I said you disagree with? If so, say so, and why."

    Yes.

    He said no such thing.

    You are promoting Fake News.

    Do your research. Dig up the quote. Stop pushing the lies from the Fake News purveyors.

    You should know this by now. The Fake News media narratives are not to be trusted. They generally push lies.

    You have to search in order to find what people have actually said. If you promote the narratives that the Fake News are trying to spread, you are complicit and not to be taken seriously. Do your own fact-checking before spreading bullshit.
     
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    At the 24.13 mark at the OP Link...he said.....and I have tried to do the best I can here....'We have hundreds of thousands of people (huh.....is he saying that hundreds of thousands have the virus in the US) getting better, just sitting around, some of 'em go to work.'

    I also just noticed that he also said this Covid 19 is a 'corona flu or virus.' The guy is lying.

    Is what Trump said 'fake?'
     
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    So, you're deflecting now..

    OK. You have exposed yourself.
     
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