Trump has never been worse — but his approval is surging, why?

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  1. Rugglestx

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    They are ramping up the Trump Rage out of fear, they know that he is on track to 4 more years even more than before C19. They would never admit it but they know it.
     
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    No, not just my opinion. His results are his results, and he is not a good president. The worst in my memory, which goes back to Eisenhower.

    Trump portrays himself in a "negative light" with his every word and deed. The media need only quote him in full context, and just because you disagree with them doesn't make it a "fake news political hack job."
     
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    We're all tickled to death to learn that Russia and China have been rendered harmless.
    Be that as it may, dissolution of the US will not lead to victory.
     
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    That entire post is your opinion..
     
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    Russia is not our enemy
     
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    His slow response to the pandemic has caused most of our problems. Countries that made an immediate and dramatic response have done better, such doing a lot of early testing. Such as locking down sooner. He abuses Democratic governors, such as Washington's governor Inslee, calling him a snake. But the fact is, Inslee has slowed down the spread of the virus in Washington by shutting the state down early. While Seattle was the first epicenter of the virus in the US, it is now 7th down from the top state with the virus, behind NY, NJ, California, Michigan, Massachusetts, and Florida. Instead of shutting down the whole country, which he should have done early on, Trump has allowed the virus to spread like wildfire while he pretended it was nothing serious. Trump spent weeks downplaying the coronavirus:

    March 9
    “The Fake News Media and their partner, the Democrat Party, is doing everything within its semi-considerable power ... to inflame the CoronaVirus situation.”

    March 4
    “Some people will have this at a very light level and won’t even go to a doctor or hospital, and they’ll get better. There are many people like that.”

    Feb. 28
    “It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”

    Feb. 24
    “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. … Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”

    Feb. 10
    “Looks like by April, you know, in theory, when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away.”

    Jan. 22
    “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”

    He also waited too long to invoke the Defense Production Act. It would have been a huge help if he had invoked it weeks ago.
     
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    He is definitely worse than any of them. History will tell.
     
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    Sense when?
     
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    Since the Cold War is over

    Go join the Ukrainian Nazis
     
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    The population isn’t stupid but the disloyal opposition afflicted by TDS sure seems to be.
     
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    Just to refresh people's memories. As little as four days ago, posters were ridiculed by Trump fans for saying that the covid death toll could be 450,000.

    Yesterday, Trump said himself that the death toll could be 100,000 to 240,000, under the best circumstances and with social distancing effects working.

    How do you like being thrown under the bus by your leader? Is Trump now joining the lefties in peddling panic?

    My view: Trump finally got the seriousness of this into his thick head. It's about time. I expect leaders to be a little faster on the uptake.
     
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    How about the fact that 100k to 250k is is less than 450 k if you add them together...
     
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    All your opinions... and with the benefit of hindsight.

    Maybe just maybe he doesn't view the role of the federal government to be that strong. A fact for which you'll be grateful once this is over. Many leaders around the world have used this outbreak to consolidate and and make permanent power over their people.

    There has also been a massive disinformation Campaign by the Chinese government to hide the severity of the outbreak there. It's only in the last couple weeks we have learned anything meaningful.

    Ohh and as pretty much a life long Washington state resident Inslee os a snake...

    Colorado has been under shelter at home order for two weeks... people are ignoring it. If coloradans get sick they have only themselves to blame... same goes with the creeps on spring break in Florida.


    None of this is Trump's fault...get over your hatred...
     
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    Still won't hold a candle to Obama's Virus. What's your point?

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    Based on what? Certainly not based on the number of people in the U.S. who died as a result of their actions.
     
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    For the past eight years or so, from Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman to Michael Brown and the Police Officer, from Jussie Smollett to the Covington teens, from Judge Kavanaugh to the Russian conspiracy and President Trump and Covid19, the left has not ceased in their fanatical attempts to make bad men look good and good men look bad. So, word to the left, your credibility is zero. And your incessant sniping from behind the curve makes transparent your petty and desperate motives. Like a fallen God, your dogmatic zeal has set you apart and spurned....reduced from compatriots in liberty, to angry, hair splitting, fault finding adversaries. See you at the polls.
     
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    Trump had the power to put the infrastructure in place to PROVIDE test, ventilators and hospital required.

    Because Trump chose to dismiss and spin the severity we now have thousands of deaths and a shut economy.
     
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    So 100k-240k is "almost" 450k now?

    It's literally 22% to 53% of the "predicted" 450k. As in not even close....

    And as one throwing that under the bus days ago I posted links predicting 100k to 200K dead at that time. Used 150k as a middle ground type number posting that the 450k dead post was 33% accurate / 67% accurate. As in not even close......

    So I feel vindicated if your want to know how I feel, thanks for asking. :)

    How do you think 450k dead guy feels?
     
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    Like the rest of the world? Is President Trump responsible for those countries being shut down as well? Their deaths as well?

    Of course not.
     
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    Let's assume for a moment that you're right. When exactly was he supposed to do this?
     
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    Oh yes it is Trump's fault. Very much so. You are blind to reality.
     
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    Based on pretty much everything he does and has done as president. He is thoroughly abysmal. We can give you people evidence up the kazoo, and you still stick your heads in the sand.
     
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    "Still, Democrats hoping to see Trump drop to Nixonian-levels are in for disappointment. The past five years since Trump declared his candidacy for the Republican presidential nomination have demonstrated that his base of support is rock solid. Since his inauguration, his approval ratings have held remarkably steady. In fact, they remained virtually unchanged through the impeachment process, which concluded with his Senate acquittal on Feb. 5.

    And with Trump, past precedents only go so far. He has defied political expectations since nabbing the 2016 Republican nomination and then beating Democratic rival Hillary Clinton in one of the greatest upsets in American election history. Assumptions that Trump will be hurt politically by the coronavirus need to be taken with a grain of salt. After all, Democratic impeachment efforts arguably helped Trump politically"

    https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opini...atings-rising-s-not-surprising-or-ncna1170606.

    Not a flattering piece on Trump. In fact it predicts a reversal of fortune for him in the ratings department. But the part above is such a strength for him that to me it clearly shows why in November he will win. Loyal support and repeated and perplexing incompetence by the DNC (especially Pelosi) combined with Biden being the opponent is a mix that Trump will easily defeat.
     
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    What the left continues to blunder into is the trap where they attack Trump, fail and drive the right's base into a stronger alliance. The left continues to unify the right daily while their own side splits. It's amazing to watch the DNC turn into nothing more that a simplified slogan poster of "Better Than Trump" with no purpose or drive based on their political beliefs. They literally pushed aside Bernie and his progressive ideals because they felt Biden might beat Trump...sold themselves and their ideals out to "just beat Trump" in other words. Not advance their agenda.

    The left and their Trump obsession will cost them the election in Nov.
     
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    My expectations have remained unchanged since the first time I saw footage of a Wuhan patient on an isolation pod gurney and the thousand bed hospital being graded and built in ten days in Wuhan.

    And those expectations were and are, man o' man look at that shet, anything can happen with this. Anything. No limits.

    At that time I began to quickly lay in four months of provisions and supplies. I figure if it goes beyond four months the front end loaders will be dumping bodies in mass graves to help stop the spread, and me and my wife will be dead anyway.

    I listen carefully to the government experts, but this is their first go 'round with the Wuhan virus and they started with a zero knowledge base. There is no guarantee of survival no matter how careful one is, and me and my wife could easily soon be dead although we are in obedience and beyond to all that the government has laid down.

    I listen respectfully to what the government says, but it has not changed my personal outlook or strategy at all.
     
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