Trump has never been worse — but his approval is surging, why?

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  1. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

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    You misplaced a word. You meant "Trump not winning." Glad to help.
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Everyone who disagrees with me is stupid.

    Said someone with no capacity to evaluate their own conclusions.
     
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    Joe who?

    This is 2020, the age of social media and 34 second attention spans. With the young it’s an even shorter attention span. And since the young are a huge part of the left’s voting base, well Joe being nowhere on the public stage for months will doom his campaign.

    You can spin it anyway you want but voter turnout will be lower due to C19. And low voter turn out will hurt the left.

    The only thing that might save the DNC is a fiery motivational charismatic nominee.

    They have Joe Biden.
     
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    Yes, people lie to the world, especially Trump, every day. If the media shows a video of Trump making a speech, and the show the entire speech, how is that a lie? If they show his nasty little tweets in full context, how is that a lie?

    Yes, it's an emergency, and epic fail on the Trump administration's limp and uncoordinated response. Epic fail on have gotten rid of the expert response team that Obama put in place ... Trump hates Obama so much that he's dismantled or is working on destroying any good thing Obama did. Epic fail on not even bothering to use the pandemic playbook created by the NSC under Obama. Here it is:

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/25/trump-coronavirus-national-security-council-149285

    Ignore the source and just go straight to the text of the playbook itself. Read it, then come back and tell me why the Trump administration was right to ignore it.

    Sorry, but the facts are not on your side in this, and you don't get to use "alternative facts."

    I'm done here.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You've debunked absolutely nothing here. Alternative facts don't count, nor does simply dismissing someone's sources without providing any to back you up.
     
  6. Robert E Allen

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    Your first paragraph is fine..

    Everything after that is entirely your opinion.
     
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    Your taking opinions and calling them facts, that's the problem here...
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, and nearly all of them are pure horse pucky. It takes the will to do personal research in order to sort through them, but most people are too busy for that, or too lazy, and it's so much easier to simply cherry-pick the "facts" that fit your already estalished views.
     
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    On the contrary, that's what you've been doing. And so far, you've not provided a single corroboating link to back up your opinion.

    Hopeless.
     
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    Every time you say Trump is doing a bad job you are stating an opinion, when you say his response is slow your stating an opinion.

    Your article from the guardian talked about some things that Trump said then proceeded to give their uneducated opinions with the benefit of hindsight and portrayed them in a negative light.
    That = a fake news political hack job.

    So yes your whole argument has been dismantled by an idiot like me thus highlighting what a horrible argument it was...

    You coulf have just said, i think Trump is doing a bad job..would have been the same thing.
     
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    JakeStarkey said:
    You misplaced a word. You meant "Trump not winning." Glad to help.
    Joe is more than enough to beat Trump. The center and left will come out in massive numbers in November.
     
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    Obviously.

    Trump (and his supporters) are going to be in for a long night on Nov. 3rd.

    Watching the RW Meltdown on Faux (and Online) will be Epic.

    Then, we will all have to hold out and hope that Trump doesn't start WW3 before Jan. 20th.:salute:
     
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    Why do you and others keep beating that drum? President Trump if anything has been far less aggressive on the international stage than his last four predecessors.
     
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    Trump's megalomania is fully capable of driving him into war in order to suspend constitutional process.
     
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    It seems that on a daily basis, the left is making another bombastic Trump prediction or another, from he is going to start WW3, all the way to predicting that he is going to declare himself king. They have not been right yet. This reality however, does not seem to stop you or your cohorts from believing them every time they make yet another of these predictions.

    It is bizarre. If it were me, I would be embarrassed to keep repeating such predictions that never seem to come true.
     
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    evidence?

    Thought not.
     
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    Baseless opinion fueled by hate
     
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  18. JakeStarkey

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    All of his unprofessional behavior in office, all of his lies and misdeeds, Dayton3.

    The JCOS will oppose him as will Congress and the federal judiciary if he tries to start a war.
     
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    I remember all the silly right nonsense about Obama suspending the election.

    The dif is that Trump is a real criminal unlike Obama.
     
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    What you call unprofessional some of us think is exactly what DC needed ...

    It's about time someone stood up to the wrong headed progressives.
     
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    I remember the nonsensical people pushing the notion that Bush was going to suspend the election. I remember the nonsensical people pushing the notion that Obama was going to suspend the election. I currently see all of the nonsensical people pushing the notion that Trump is going to cancel the election, declare himself king, start ww3, etc.

    The commonality amongst all of those people is that they are nonsensical. DO NOT BE ONE OF THOSE NONSENSICAL PEOPLE. They exist on both the left and the right.
     
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    Then there is nothing for you to worry about.
     
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    Awwwww, that's so cute, sweetie *pats head*
     
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    It is rather silly, but, OTOH, you have to admire the party discipline it takes to keep it up. ;-)
     
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    They all think they can Monday morning quarterback and if ONLY Trump had asked them what to do everyone would have been saved.
     
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