Trump has to go-He's had his chance-I've given up waiting for him to act like a human being

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  1. Renee

    Renee Well-Known Member

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    I’m with you I hate those socialist things like public schools and police and firefighters and infrastructure. They should all be private (sarcasm alert) the trouble with Trump supporters they don’t understand and think a socialistic democracy is a bad thing.I hate that I get Social Security and Medicare way too socialistic
     
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    Renee Well-Known Member

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    You left out bleached blond...He’s a walking blonde joke
     
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    XploreR Well-Known Member

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    1. Both.
    2. The President is more than a simple businessman. He/she is the foremost public representative of our nation & our people & our culture. His/her behaviors reflect backward onto all of us. Trump fails miserably in all of this. Plus, what exactly do you feel he's actually achieved?
    3. We aren't at war--YET. But N Korea, Venezuela & Iran are all still possibilities. Our economy is statistically good--a continuation of the Obama years. Unemployment is low, but pay for many workers is insufficient to live on, forcing many workers to hold down more than one job just to survive. The high ratings for the stock market don't help those who are so poor they can't afford stocks or investments. The stock market primarily helps the rich. What about the rest of us? Trump got his tax cut, but the biggest cuts go to the rich again, while the middle class & poor get a temporary break for a handful of years. But that tax cut increased our deficit, so was it really a good idea?
    4. Trump IS the biggest ass in the leadership world at present, & an embarrassment for most Americans. If you like that kind of leader, that's a measure of how out of step you are with most of your fellow citizens. Personally, I hope he gets trampled in the next election.
     
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  4. PatriotNews

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    Flynn and Papadopoulos didn't lie. And Clinton's lie was intentional perjury.

    If Trump uses the IC to spy on Democrats then refuses to accept the election results by leading a coup attempt against his successor, then cry to me about dictatorships.

    Obama is the real dictator.
     
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    EyesWideOpen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't be silly, public schools, fire department, roads and bridges, those are the very things a free people get together to create a government to do for the community.

    If those silly arguments are what you think represent an in depth debate on the topic of socialism, you have to be more intellectually honest than that.

    Your posts have been sophomoric, and a waste of time for anyone to respond to. Try being intellectually honest, and I might respond, otherwise don't bother to.
     
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    1. I regard Flynn much like I regard Benedict Arnold. Both served their nation well inside the military, and both betrayed their country by working with it's adversaries. Clinton's lie was a small one, designed to hide his consensual sexual affairs from his wife--which almost any husband would do. Furthermore, consensual sex is NOT a crime. It's not even a misdemeanor. And, it's certainly not illegal. Republicans had to be truly desperate to settle on that as a basis for impeachment. Proposed charges against Trump are far more serious.
    2. So, you're willing to wait until Trump attempts a coup before you're willing to do anything to prevent it? Does that mean you're more loyal to Trump than to your country?
    3. Since I regard Obama as a good man & a good President--although a bit too middle of the road for me--I'm bewildered by conservative Republican's persuasion that he was a failure as a President. Upon what is such a conclusion based?
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You'd probably prefer the old "panty waste" Republicans like Juan McAmnesty or Smitten Romney.......though they were polite, both losers! and Rinos.
    What, don't you like the way President Trump attacks the blatant "fake news"? I sure do. Watch their ratings tank!:banana:
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Funny how leftist always use that argument. The Founders considered government a "NECESSARY EVIL". Leftists like Renee, just want a lot more of the EVIL.
     
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    1. Results matter more than presentation, I understand this is a personal issue but I honestly don't care what other nations think about this because I don't think highly about most of them.

    2. Trump has a booming economy, is opening up negotiations all over the place showing he is willing to talk to anyone, with his tariffs he is putting the world on notice that America will now play hardball, is getting rid of useless regulations in the business world, he is taking on nations on issues like immigration that previous presidents did not have the balls to do.

    3. He is not at war, we can leave it at that. There is always a threat of war somewhere but he has shown no desire to engage in that. Obama was more of a war monger than Trump is.

    All Trump has done in his first three years is bomb some meaningless airfield with absolutely no consequence.

    4. In my opinion there are times when you should be an ass and piss people off, if not you probably aren't doing your job correctly. This is not a friendship tournament it's about putting America first and protecting our interests. If you have to rub people the wrong way to do that then that is their problem.
     
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    I thought we had sufficiently debunked the "multiple jobs" myth when Ocasio-Nitwit blabbered it. Apparently not.

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    I was shocked that Clinton lied about a consensual sex act. I am sure no man ever did that, they just told their wives..such a serious crime.LOL
    I love the way you say Papadopoulos didn’t lie. Isn’t it fascinating that he went to jail after pleading guilty to lying? But to trumps base , they .... deny reality..and Flynn?Flynn relayed that he'd gotten a request to arrange a Trump-Putin call from Sergey
    What laws has obama broken? Has he kissed the asses of the most brutal dictator’s? Has he broken laws one after the other that only his base will forgive and pretend they don’t exist?Trump sure knows his base and that’s why he talks to them like they’re stupid
     
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    There is more to good strategy than always attacking.
     
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    My feelings exactly. Look at his accomplishments then look at what the House has accomplished.......absolutely nothing! Oh but he says some not so nice things. So what!
     
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    McCain and Romney laid down when attacked. That was their strategy. Real winners, weren't they? They handed Obongo 8 years. Thing is, the passive aggressive attacks and innuendo by leftists and fake news goes unnoticed by RINOS. They just go along to get along.
     
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    I agree there are times when a President must act in such a manner, but Trump does it on a daily basis, & to friends even more than foes. Trump overdoes it, & that's not necessary or desirable. There's a difference between being tough for a good cause & being a bully. Trump is the latter. America can & must do better selecting its leadership.
     
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    Interesting. Thank you for the research, & sharing. Good to know. :)
     
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    You have lost my respect on this forum.
     
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    Why? I still want a Republican president. Now and in the future.
     
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    And the founders created the framework for their necessary evil. So, it couldn't be all that evil.
     
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    Supporters of tRUMP lose respect from real to honest good hardworking Americans.
    Yet, there's a majority of them at PF.

    And tRUMP was a D before the black skinned prez.
     
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    No, Flynn did not betray his country. He was charged with lying but the FBI agent said he didn't think he lied. He's a victim of an overzealous political prosecutor.

    Clinton committed many crimes. Perjury, subordination of perjury, bribery, witness tampering, sexual harassment, and many more. He betrayed the country. Do you not think the Russians didn't know about his many affairs while in office?

    Trump has done nothing but good for the country. I'm not loyal to him or the party. I'm loyal to the country.

    You on the other hand, are willingly overlooking Obama's transgressions. He rigged the 2010 & 2012 elections by persecuting the Tea Party. He used the IRS against citizens. He sold uranium to Russia. He let Putin invade Ukraine and annex Crimea. He used the FBI, DOJ, CIA, NSA, DNI, and Department of Treasury Financial Crimes Division to spy on Trump.

    That's treasonous.
     
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    Sexual harassment is never consensual.

    Flynn and Papadopoulos were set up with perjury traps. They are victims of political corruption. Mueller's job was to hide the #SPYGATE scandal. Now there's no more hiding.

    Trump has been much tougher on Russia than Obama.

    Obama sold uranium to Russia.

    Obama will be at the head of the snake.
     
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    LMAO...Of course you are.
    Your obese orange hope is a corrupt, amoral demagogue using his stint as potus to rig the system in his favor and enrich himself, and you people know it.
    He peddles hatred, fear and lies and his supporters lap it up because he panders to their own worst instincts.

    I have known that trump is a crook and a thug for over 30 years, but I hoped that he would rise to the occasion when he became potus. But he just doubled down on the bullshit.
    I again hoped that his recent participation in the 75th anniversary of D-Day would have sobered him up about what it means to be a leader, but again he degenerated into his puerile ignorance and belligerent demagoguery.

    He is clearly unfit to be potus. Anyone who is actually loyal to the US will recognize that fact, whatever their political persuasion.
     
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    Because you have been bested by the MSM constant howling.
     
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    they realized that, in a limited form, it was a necessary evil. Do you find that hard to understand? The Bill of rights was formed to restrain government from excesses. Is that difficult for you?
     

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