Trump knew about whistleblower complaint before he released Ukraine aid, report says

Irrelevant.

 

So now it went from an agent to an asset. LOL. The beloved Mueller Report couldn't find a connection, why can't you guys leave it at that? Even the 9/11 truthers are pretty much gone.

 

He already said he wanted to review the country's government and see if it was serious about its anti-corruption reform. So, we already have the reasoning of the President. Now, whether you choose to believe him or not is up to you.

This report, if true does give a half credence to the last standing theory: That Trump became aware of the investigation and decided to lift the aid. However, there's a HUGE timing problem for that theory.

If that theory were accurate, criminal Donald Trump would have had the aid lifted when he learned of it on Late August. But instead, we know that he lifted it on Sept 11. That timing flaw almost destroys the theory from a logical sense.

 

All foreign aid is a QPQ.

 

Pelosi can't risk 2 things. 1) Biden and Schiff will be called to testify in the Senate trial, torpedoing the Democrat front runner. 2) 31 House seats that are in districts Trump won in 2016. She can't let that happen. Even if most of those 31 seats vote nay or present, articles of impeachment dies in the House.

 

And Shokin, the Ukrainian investigator who recently said in a sworn statement that Biden did in fact get him fired for getting too close to Burisma, and Alexandra Chalupa, the Democratic operative who coordinated the 2016 effort to get dirt on Trump. Bring it on.

Checkmate.

 

And so, take note that the Prosecution has changed its theory again. First, it was the theory that the President released the aid because *he* became aware of the complaint. Now the prosecution wants to change the theory to it's when he became aware that Congress became aware of the complaint.

The reason the prosecution has changed its theory is because the release of this information as noted by a few of us here, destroys the first theory. It no longer works. But they figure if they shift the reasoning, it can still apply.

But if the prosecution can submit theories, then the defense can equally submit a valid theory. If the prosecution's theory were true, as I stated before: Trump would have released the aid when he learned of the complaint itself on Late August. It doesn't matter when whom learned of the complaint, because it would only make logical sense for the complaint to be given to Congress.

Why would Trump NOT think Congress wouldn't receive the report? And why would Trump chance it at all? If this were Trump covering up a bribery attempt, he most certainly was lazy in doing so by waiting so long and choosing such an awful date that allows for this theory to live in the first place.

 

I personally never considered Trump to be an active agent.... I've always put him in the useful idiot category.

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a useful idiot is a derogatory term for a person perceived as propagandizing for a cause without fully comprehending the cause's goals, and who is cynically used by the cause's leaders.[
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot

Yep, that's our boy... BTW, anybody who does that is considered an asset by the Russians, whether that person knows it or not...

 

The prosecution will always change their theory as the facts emerge... would be a pretty shitty prosecution if they locked into the first theory they ran into and never budged.

However, I don't know of anybody who said he released the aid when he became aware of the complaint because until this story, nobody knew when that was.

We all knew of the letter from Congress on 9/9 from almost day 1.

 

Who cares about Russia, China is our #1 enemy, the LW gives them a pass.

 

China isn't responsible for much of Trump's money... therefore, Russia is currently the larger threat... That will probably change in 2021...

 

I hold both China and Russia as equal threats. The two Eurasian States are our competitors, but not merely from just a competitive standpoint but as a malicious actor intending to do us harm(See the poisonous crap China sends us lately?)

Neither are our friends.

 

He was told that it was very likely that Congress would never, and thus no one, learn about the contents of the whistleblower complaint. And the reason we know that he was given that statement is because the OLC was in the process (or had completed) of issuing a legal opinion that Congress was not entitled to learn because Trump was "not part of the Intelligence agency." So even though you - and honestly every other legal expert not actively trying to defend trump - think the only reasonable outcome of that review is that Congress was going to learn, Trump's Office of the Legal Counsel had already or was attempting to provide a semi-rational reason that Congress would not.

And yes, Trump is as lazy as he is corrupt. This is stupid watergate.

But there's another reason trump might have been slow to release the aid. He is a ****ing moron. To this day, he might be able to convince himself that it is perfectly OK to use any leverage possible, even congressionally approved legal aid, to encourage any foreign government to investigate his domestic political opponent.

 

The reason I can't wrap my head around this case, is that that's what PAC'S do all the time. Hell, both Republicans and Democrats hired Fusion GPS. It would have been easier, and legal and more practical(as well as epic trollish), if Trump had just hired Fusion GPS to look into Biden.

 

I wont argue with the notion that trump could have pursued his desired investigation legally and in a manner which was not corrupt nor impeachable.

I will argue that the route he choose was not legal and it was corrupt and impeachable.

 

You guys still trying to necro this impeachment circus?