Trump mocks Russian hacking 'conspiracy theory'

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Indeed, in yet another Twitter rant this morning, Donald Trump seemed to wax poetic on his computer hacking expertise, implying intelligence agencies are wrong when he stated ""unless you catch "hackers" in the act, it is very hard to determine who was doing the hacking", which is am amazing assessment form a fellow whose computer expertise seems to be limited to saying the most ridiculous things possible in 140 characters.

I don't know. Maybe he is that smart and knows this. Maybe he read The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo and hence is an expert in hacking. Maybe he really does know more than intelligence agencies.

Or I think what is more likely is once again our president elect refuses to back down form insanely silly statements he previously made and instead simply pushes forth with his bluster shoving facts and reality to the side.




http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38292392


Donald Trump has poured fresh scorn on US intelligence claims of Russian hackers meddling in the US election.

He tweeted: "Can you imagine if the election results were the opposite and WE tried to play the Russia/CIA card. It would be called conspiracy theory!"

The US president-elect also questioned why the alleged cyber-attacks were not widely made public before the election.

His remarks set the incoming commander-in-chief against intelligence services that he will preside over.

"Unless you catch "hackers" in the act, it is very hard to determine who was doing the hacking. Why wasn't this brought up before election?" Mr Trump tweeted on Monday morning.

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His latest Twitter tirade comes a day after he told Fox News the Democrats were disseminating the "ridiculous" hacking reports because they were embarrassed at the scale of the election defeat.
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On Friday, CIA officials told US media they had concluded that Russians hackers had attempted to sway the US election in Mr Trump's favour.

The Trump team responded to those reports in a statement: "These are the same people that said Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction."

On Sunday, John Bolton, the former US envoy to the UN who is tipped to be named deputy secretary of state in the Trump administration, told Fox News that claims of Russian hacking could be a "false flag".

Mr Bolton, who was one of the Bush administration's most vocal advocates for Iraq War, told the network: "It is not at all clear to me, just viewing this from the outside, that this hacking into the DNC and the RNC computers was not a false flag operation."

False flag is a term commonly used by so-called conspiracy theorists, often to describe covert attacks by a government to advance its own agenda by making it appear as though someone else was responsible.

"If you think the Russians did this, why did they leave fingerprints?" Mr Bolton added.

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President Barack Obama has ordered a complete review of the hacks, which targeted emails at the Democratic Party and the emails of a key aide to presidential nominee Hillary Clinton.

The contents of the emails, passed to Wikileaks and posted online, were embarrassing to the Democrats and shook up the presidential campaign.

Senior Republicans have now joined Democrats in calling for a full investigation.

Republican Senator John McCain, chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said in a joint statement on Sunday with top Democrats that the CIA's report "should alarm every American

 

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) backed calls for a congressional probe into Russian interference in the U.S. election, saying the Senate Intelligence Committee is “more than capable” of investigating the matter.

It's a bipartisan conspiracy theory backed by both parties full of people who get briefed on these matters.

 

Sure, sure and the attack on Benghazi was caused by a YouTube video......

 

The call for an investigation is not an allegation of collusion. Everyone should welcome such an investigation. The sources for these allegations are "unnamed sources" in the White House, which brought you such hits as "the Benghazi video". Of course we want to investigate the conspiracy theory. If there is merit to it it might bring some much needed discussion to hardening our digital infrastructure which has been ignored by this administration for the last 8 years. This administration has been far more focused on weakening it so that his intelligence aparatus can spy on us. The Obama NSA has been aggressively dismantling any companies which provide products or services that bring any real security within the reach of the public. Just ask lavabit.

 

Good for Trump.

Everyone knows this claim of Russian hacking is a scam to shut down alternatives to the mainstream propaganda media.

 

Do you have evidence that Russia did NOT interfere with the election?

Can you post this evidence?

 

One of the oldest axioms in the world is that "you cannot prove a negative".... Oh, some people hold that you can prove a negative, but they are often the same people who are sputtering and frustrated when you ask them, "...so, when did you stop beating your wife...?"

Back on topic: Fine! If a bunch of establishment machine RINO's and pissed-off, radical Democrats want to have a big witch hunt looking for evidence of "Russian hackers", then let's do a deep-dive on that! My guess is that if even a backward, cave-dwelling bunch of retards like the North Koreans have been able to hack our wonderous "secure" systems at will, then organizations as sophisticated and capable as the Russian FSB and China's Ministry of State Security would be able to sift anything these moron Democrats would have on any of their sites and nobody would even be able to detect that they had been there at all.... And certainly not the FBI, which couldn't even find enough evidence in the mountains of it everywhere to recommend charges to the Justice Department against Hilarity Clinton....

. "Be advised -- if "the Russians are coming", you'll KNOW it...."

 

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This is pure comedy gold. Trump . . . is criticizing conspiracy theories. Trump. That's like Clinton criticizing people for not having enough server security. The man honestly believes he lives in a world where this is more evidence that Obama was born in Kenya or that millions of illegal immigrants voted than there is for Russian involvement in the email hacks. He divorces himself from reality on an hourly basis, but this one really takes the cake.

 

No what really "takes the cake" is how many different ways people on the left can whine.
Time for an intervention, it's going to be alright, your feelings are not all that matters in the world right now

 

The great Russia-hacked-the-election con.

Most of the American media are “reporting” that President Obama ordered an investigation “Russian hacking of our election,” and that the intelligence community “confirms” that it happened. Yet there is not yet any evidence that Russia hacked the election or was responsible for the DNC email hacks. None.

When self-interested people and their media allies proclaim something is true, and for a chorus that drowns out any other views, I always suspect a con. . . .

Where is the skepticism? The Russian hacking scenario is an excuse for the Democrats to explain away their loss without blaming themselves or their candidate, and it serves to delegitimize the next president – a bad thing for the country.

My own suspicion is that an insider at the DNC leaked the emails. There is as much evidence for the public to see supporting that assertion as there is for the claim that the Russians did it.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/12/the_great_russiahackedtheelection_con_.html

To the extent that it was a Russian hack, it was mostly due to Hillary and other Democrats’ exercising criminal negligence in matters of security. That’s hardly an argument that she should have been President.

 

Lol, I'm libertarian, not left, and none of what you've said changes the fact that Trump has peddled wild conspiracy theories for years, but now that he's involved in one, he's resorted to his hypocritical whining. But yet, keep blaming the left for Trump's whining. Only makes it even funnier.

 

Is this some new revelation that Russia tries to hack companies and organizations here and we do over there? What is it that needs to be investigated, we operate under the assumption they do it 24/7/365. If Clinton didn't protect her servers that is HER fault isn't it? If the DNC didn't protect their servers that is THEIR problem.

And how exactly did the alleged hacking affect the election anyway?

And didn't you agree with the premise that since the FBI found no actual evidence foreign governments hacked her previous emails server that means no hacking was accomplished and therefore no breach of national security?

 

Bingo!

The hypocrisy of crying about this by Trump and his camp is almost too funny for words.

 

Intelligence flat guaranteed to President Bush that there was WMD inside of Iraq.

Well, you must have believed George Tenet as did Bush then.

 

Oh god, this is the guy who called Alex (*)(*)(*)(*)ing Jones to thank him for getting him elected, and now he has a problem with conspiracy theories?

 

if there was any genuine concern over hardening our digital infrastructure those on the left would have spoken up to disqualify Hillary from even being considered to be POTUS after her little basement server unmasking. So I'm not sure where all of this sudden concern is really coming from. Undermining a fair election is far more dangerous than anything that could come out of looking into Russian hacking publically.
If our cyber security infrastructure is not already poised to get to the bottom of this, already on it behind the scenes and ready to make the necessary changes and stop gaps, without making public what they find or what they are doing to correct it THAT would concern me..

 

Intelligence was far, far from unified on that front. We had intelligence sources warn him that the info was fake.

 

Democrats lost, it's time to get over it and move on. Trump will be the next president.

 

some day when you grow up and understand how whining non-stop, then trying to hide behind "I'm libertarian" as if that validates your argument any further then and only then will you be able to think the necessary three statements ahead to engage in intellectual argument. Trump is not "whining" about anything, he is trying to get on with the business at hand. he has been left a boat load of misguided policy ineptness from the last eight years of our current "whiner in chief". Pay attention, think, then come to the discussion, otherwise you sound whiney, again. Just sayin.

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exactly, a little cut to the chase is in order

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omg, what are you, like 12?

 

See sig for even more hypocrisy.

Again, see the sig. His behavior hasn't changed. Yes, he is whining. No, it isn't the librul's fault. Trump can dish it out, but he just can't take it. I'm sorry the typical Trumpeter attempt to leftbait in order to avoid the topic didn't work out for you this time, but there it is.

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You'll have to clarify. I simply pointed out that the intelligence community was not unified on Iraqi WMDs. This is basic, objective fact. I'm not sure why that offends you.

 

Not at all correct. All intelligence sources believed Saddam had and was developing WMDs. A foreign intel source (Great Britain) said A PIECE of intel was not supported by their work (specifically yellow cake from Nigeria). Your statement is a gross mischaracterization of the facts.

 

Are you saying its easy work?

Because if that's the case when you would figure somebody would have proof it happened.

Yet all we have is fake news spew after fake news spew where Leftists media tries to carefully nurture this concept that Russia actually made Trump win and therefore the win can be nullified.

Face it, the only thing that happened was the DNC had it dirty laundry exposed - that's the maximum amount of potential Russian involvement.

If it was them, then all they did was do the job that American journalism WASN'T DOING!

The DNC isn't pissed that Russians "manipulated the election".

The DNC is pissed THEY GOT CAUGHT MANIPULATING THE ELECTION!

These actors, be they Russian agents or cyber patriots, did the world a great service and I say thank you to them for it.

The DNC should stop trying to act like they are the victim here and start removing the corruption that got them here.

If they don't then this probably wont be the last time their crooked ways get made public.

 

The CIA is not a "foreign intel source."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3056626.stm
http://web.archive.org/web/20070429045319/http://washtimes.com/national/20070427-124842-1706r.htm

 

No, we really did not.

All Obama has to do right today is give us the list of the 17 agencies with statements from each of them.

If agencies had warned Bush, they also warned Clinton there was no genocide and his bombing of the former Yugoslavia was wrong. That Clinton had no need to bomb Saddam and use missiles on him.

General Georges Sada of Iraq persisted that indeed Saddam had WMD and told us where it went.