Trump Organization Is Charged in 15-Year Tax Scheme

I corrected that, as also posted. But, it doesn't change my point. Trump pardoned Flynn for the same reason he had earlier fired him, lying about his conversation with the Russian Ambassador.

 

Nonsense.

Here is the sentencing document, and Trump is listed as Individual-1 on section 4 'illegal campaign contributions' which is the Stormy Daniels affair.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5453401-SDNY-Cohen-sentencing-memo.html

Seems to me, My original rebuttal was completely accurate, technically and otherwise.

 

In 2016, Trump announced that he knew more about taxes than almost anybody. The crowd went wild.

Then, on the weekend at his rally, he said this:
"They go after good, hard-working people for not paying taxes on a company car. You didn't pay tax on the car or a company apartment. You used an apartment because you need an apartment because you have to travel too far where your house is. You didn't pay tax. Or education for your grandchildren. I don't even know. Do you have to? Does anybody know the answer to that stuff?"

Uh, yes, Donald. Every business person I know knows that stuff. But, apparently you don't. Yet, the crowd still went wild as he proclaimed ignorance.

 

Amazing all those lefty da's haven't gotten him in NY or your making it up...hmmmmm

 

Happens all the times, people pay IRS fines all the time are they criminals?

 

You should know this wasn't an bring him in interview it was a conversation between an fbi agent and the Secretary. He wasn't sworn in and if you think government officials don't lie to each other you're fooling yourself. It was a political prosecution to try to get dirt on Trump, Comey said he didn't think he lied and wouldn't prosecute him before he was fired.

 

Sorry...but that's nonsense. And, Flynn was the WH National Security Advisor, not a Secretary. Comey said the interviewers didn't think he was lying, but they had proof that he was. And, he was fired by Trump for lying to Pence over the same conversation with the Russian Ambassador.

 

Here's the schedule...

He'll keep refuting facts and making bogus claims
We'll keep debunking him
He'll come back a few hours later and post the same nonsense again.

Round and round we go....

 

He does too.... count on it..

He's an ignorant man, but there's a near zero chance he didn't know this scheme was against the law...

But his faux ignorance is what keeps his base enthralled with him and it's also a prelude to some upcoming ridiculous defense strategy....

 

Lying to your boss isn't a crime big fella but it'll get you fired. So why didn't Comey charge him, uhh maybe because it was a government official lying to another government official, if you charged for that there wouldn't be any government officials. Now if you want a political hit job to get a newly elected president then sure you charge him to get some dirt which is exactly what happened.

 

Trump was Flynn's boss...not Pence. The DoJ did charge him, via the Special Counsel's Office, for lying to the FBI, among other things. Flynn pled guilty. Do your research.

 

I'm sure his lawyers are none too happy hearing him make these ridiculous statements. And yes, I agree - he knows very well that those tax laws were broken.

 

Maybe instead of "Make America Great Again," he should change his slogan to "Just Because You're Stupid Doesn't Mean You Aren't Entitled to a Share." Or, "It Is Your Inalienable Right to be Dumb and Let No One Tell You Differently."

 

They are when they devise a scheme to hide their wrongdoing. That’s tax fraud...

 

Your reference backs up everything that I said. You are citing the filing of the SDNY US Attorney preliminary to sentencing. Of course he referenced the NDA actions (and campaign contributions) because he did not want to drop those charges before sentencing, which is also why he asked the court for one inclusive sentence for all crimes because Cohen would have received no sentence for the Trump involved actions, and the SDNY did not want that made public. The US Attorney and the court both knew Cohen's guilty plea was a no-op which means they knew Cohen was guilty of nothing involving Trump

 

That is correct. However the claim was that they were the exact same lies. To that I replied nobody knows that to be a fact.

 

So...who is "Individual 1?" And, didn't Cohen show signed checks from Trump, after he was President? Cohen was no longer working for him. What were the checks for?

 

So many people supporting Soviet-style circus show trials.

 

That is what YOU are doing. Not me.

I give you the facts, and you have debunked nothing, but you have, indeed, denied something.

 

Sure we do. We have the transcript of the call. We have the the DoJ charges referencing the call. We have Flynn's termination letter to Trump admitting that he failed to completely brief Pence and others regarding the calls. We have Flynn's agreement to plead guilty to his lies to the FBI regarding the calls. And, we have the Pardon from Trump to Flynn, specifically noting the charges and the Flynn agreement to plead guilty regarding the calls.

 

Individual 1 was Trump. and yes Cohen showed signed checks from Trump because Cohen was his retained lawyer. This has nothing to do with any criminal activity involving Trump because there wasn't any even though Cohen pled guilty to such a non-crime; this is the issue of these posts. Cohen's sentencing was all his sole own doing.

 

Nah...but this goes way back. You are forgetting the phony company they set-up (with Trump's name on the company registration documents) through which to transfer the money.

 

I remain puzzled by the "non-crime" claim. Elaborate.

 

Is Hunter Biden in jail?

 

Where do you come up with this?

Here is the sentencing transcript

https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Transcript-of-Michael-Cohen-sentencing.pdf

On page 5, lines 1-7, the judge states:

With a total offense level of 24 and a Criminal History Category of I, Mr. Cohen's guideline range is 51 to 63 months of imprisonment on the eight charges of income tax evasion, making false statements to a banking institution, and the two campaign finance crimes.

Now, with respect to Mr. Cohen's plea to making false statements to Congress, [...] So, with a total offense level of 4 and a Criminal History Category of I, his guidelines range for making false statements to Congress is zero to six months of imprisonment.

So, the point is, in the list of indictments, there are two campaign finance violations, and that is under the direction of, and for the benefit of, Donald Trump, listed as 'individual-1' in the document.

The plea to making false statements to Congress were false statements to protect Donald Trump, done for the benefit of Donald Trump.

So, you are therefore factually incorrect in your assertion that Donald Trump had nothing to do with the sentencing.

If you are implying that if these were the only charges in the sentencing, there would have been no jail time, there is no way to know that, the proportionalities in the sentencing were not given separating the campaign finance crimes from the other eight charges, of income tax evasion they were grouped together. For the false statements to congress, the judge stated 'zero to six months' so we don't know how much time he served within that period.

But, the point is, Of the total time Cohen did serve, it is reasonable to assume some of that time is attributable to all charges he pled guilty to, some more, some less.

Therefore, you are factually incorrect.