Trump picked the wrong audience

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Sandy Shanks, Jul 24, 2018.

  1. Sandy Shanks

    Sandy Shanks Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2016
    Messages:
    26,679
    Likes Received:
    6,470
    Trophy Points:
    113
    “Freedom of the press is not just important to democracy, it is democracy.” -Walter Cronkite

    "The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!" -Donald J. Trump

    Today, in Missouri, Trump told a crowd of veterans "Don't believe the crap you hear from these people -- the fake news. What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening."

    The President of the United States told a room full of hardened veterans not to believe what the read, hear, and see from the free press.

    Trump chose the wrong audience to make those treasonous comments, while only a week ago he told an American audience that he did not believe American intelligence. Instead, he believe the communist dictator of Russia because his statement was presented in a powerful way.

    We veterans swore to protect our Constitution from enemies, foreign and domestic. We gambled with our lives to support that oath. In 230 years, many have lost that gamble.

    There is little doubt that Trump's words inflamed the majority of the veterans in that hall. It is inconceivable that any man would be so stupid as to attack our democracy in a room full of veterans, each of whom had sworn to protect our democracy with ]their very lives.

    Trump was speaking at the Veterans of Foreign Wars national convention in Kansas City. The VFW did not agree with Trump.

    "Today, we were disappointed to hear some of our members boo the press during President Trump's remarks," the organization wrote. "We rely on the media to spread the VFW message, and @CNN, @NBCNews, @ABC, @FoxNews, @CBSNews, & others on site today, were our invited guests. We were happy to have them there."

    The idiot chose the wrong audience!
     
    ibobbrob, Diuretic, AZ. and 4 others like this.
  2. Sandy Shanks

    Sandy Shanks Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2016
    Messages:
    26,679
    Likes Received:
    6,470
    Trophy Points:
    113
    “What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what’s happening,” Donald J. Trump

    “The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.” George Orwell, 1984.
     
    PARTIZAN1, Diuretic, Bluebird and 4 others like this.
  3. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2018
    Messages:
    27,298
    Likes Received:
    11,154
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    There is a difference between the "VFW Organization" and the veterans? Sounds like the VFW leadership does not represent their own members.
     
    roorooroo and headhawg7 like this.
  4. Moonglow

    Moonglow Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2013
    Messages:
    20,754
    Likes Received:
    8,047
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Donald is a disgrace to this veteran..
     
    ibobbrob, Capt Nice and Bluebird like this.
  5. ararmer1919

    ararmer1919 Banned

    Joined:
    May 26, 2014
    Messages:
    8,605
    Likes Received:
    2,150
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I have no idea what you’re trying to say here.
     
  6. Sanskrit

    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2014
    Messages:
    17,082
    Likes Received:
    6,711
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Essentially it's that complaining about fake news is now treasonous. I kid you not.

    I do hope they continue with the "skewering the press is treason" narrative, what a cherry on top that would be.
     
    headhawg7 and ararmer1919 like this.
  7. Moonglow

    Moonglow Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2013
    Messages:
    20,754
    Likes Received:
    8,047
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I could understand believing him if he wasn't such a blatant liar in chief.
     
    ibobbrob and The Bear like this.
  8. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2013
    Messages:
    73,644
    Likes Received:
    13,766
    Trophy Points:
    113
    'America’s farmers don’t want to be paid to lose'

    Republican senators condemned the Trump administration's recently announced plans to bail out U.S. farmers hit by crippling tariffs on their goods.
    “This trade war is cutting the legs out from under farmers and the White House’s ‘plan’ is to spend $12 billion on gold crutches," said Nebraska Sen. Ben Sasse.

    Tennessee Sen. Bob Corker called on the Trump administration to "reverse course and end this incoherent" tariff and said the administration was "offering welfare to farmers to solve a problem they themselves created."

    Sen. Ben Sasse, R-Neb., came out swinging against the newly proposed aid package, describing it as a pair of "gold crutches" to support the farmers hobbled by President Donald Trump's own trade policy.

    “This trade war is cutting the legs out from under farmers and the White House’s ‘plan’ is to spend $12 billion on gold crutches," Sasse, a frequent Trump critic, said in a statement.

    "America’s farmers don’t want to be paid to lose — they want to win by feeding the world. This administration’s tariffs and bailouts aren’t going to make America great again, they’re just going to make it 1929 again,” he added.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/24/keygop-senators-rip-trumps-incoherent-farm-bailout.html
     
    ibobbrob and Bluebird like this.
  9. Moonglow

    Moonglow Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2013
    Messages:
    20,754
    Likes Received:
    8,047
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Trump dodges Nam because of bone spurs yet had no problem lettering in sports in college..
     
    Bowerbird and Margot2 like this.
  10. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 5, 2015
    Messages:
    27,360
    Likes Received:
    8,062
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If you can't believe the PR propaganda outlets of global super rich who operate the world's child labor sweatshops, who can you believe? In fact, anyone who even questions what Jeff Bezo and Mexican Carlos Slim Helu say and want as they and such as them are now the media news and the press you are a traitor and should be hung for treason!!!

    ALL loyal Americans have a PRAYER closet to the 25 richest people and corporations on earth, for which federal cops are the saint. Everyone else is a heathen traitorous commie lover. At least so says the NEW corporate fascist Democratic Party.
     
    headhawg7 likes this.
  11. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 5, 2015
    Messages:
    27,360
    Likes Received:
    8,062
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Just like Unions don't represent their members.
     
    Thought Criminal likes this.
  12. ararmer1919

    ararmer1919 Banned

    Joined:
    May 26, 2014
    Messages:
    8,605
    Likes Received:
    2,150
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Oh I get that part. I was referring to the constant “HE PICKED THE WRONG CROWD!!!!!!!!” Bit. Sorry probably should have been more specific
     
    Last edited: Jul 24, 2018
    Sanskrit likes this.
  13. ararmer1919

    ararmer1919 Banned

    Joined:
    May 26, 2014
    Messages:
    8,605
    Likes Received:
    2,150
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Flaimbaiting isn’t your strong suit. Don’t quit your day job.
     
    Last edited: Jul 24, 2018
    GreenBayMatters and Sanskrit like this.
  14. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 5, 2015
    Messages:
    27,360
    Likes Received:
    8,062
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The Democratic Party and many Democrats are FURIOUS that President Trump did not follow President Obama to give Russia the rest of the Ukraine and instead provided Ukraine advanced weapons.

    To the Democratic Party - anyone who will not give Russia ANYTHING they want - our uranium and any country anywhere is a traitor because they claim all loyal Americans exist to serve Russia and to destroy the USA and our allies.
     
  15. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 5, 2015
    Messages:
    27,360
    Likes Received:
    8,062
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I understand your HERO is draft dodger Bill Clinton who didn't fail any physical but was let off being drafted because he is a Democratic and a war protester who shared you hate of the military. And ALL good Democrats destroy fake military metals to express hatred of the military, calling our troops mass murderers - while secretly keeping the medals as a liar. Your heroes you wanted to be president.
     
  16. Moonglow

    Moonglow Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2013
    Messages:
    20,754
    Likes Received:
    8,047
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    When Did I say that Bill Clintoon was my buddy, go ahead I'll wait to see the evidence..I am no Dem, I am no Repub. neither party is worth following or supporting since in the end they are one in the same.. I am a two time honorably discharge veteran of the US Army and you can go Farkle yourself forever considering I would think of my fellow comrades in such a disgusting manner...Carry on,, puke...
     
    Last edited: Jul 24, 2018
  17. Moonglow

    Moonglow Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2013
    Messages:
    20,754
    Likes Received:
    8,047
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    What part of Ukraine did Oblama give Russia?
     
    Last edited: Jul 24, 2018
  18. Gatewood

    Gatewood Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2013
    Messages:
    47,624
    Likes Received:
    48,666
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It's simple. He's a veteran and he has a pathological hatred of Trump. He therefore KNOWS that all veterans must also possess a pathological hatred of Trump IF they are patriots.

    Oddly enough not only am I a patriotic veteran whom does not happen to possess a pathological hatred of Trump but none of the veterans I know confess any hatred of Trump. But then again, none of us suck off the propaganda teat of MSNBC or CNN.
     
    Last edited: Jul 24, 2018
  19. Gatewood

    Gatewood Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2013
    Messages:
    47,624
    Likes Received:
    48,666
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Oddly enough not only am I a patriotic veteran whom does not happen to possess a pathological hatred of Trump but none of the veterans I know confess any hatred of Trump. But then again, none of us suck off the propaganda teat of MSNBC or CNN.
     
  20. BarleyPopGuy

    BarleyPopGuy Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2018
    Messages:
    1,566
    Likes Received:
    1,040
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Trump spoke so therefore it must be a lie..you lefties are a joke.
     
    GreenBayMatters and AlphaOmega like this.
  21. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 5, 2015
    Messages:
    27,360
    Likes Received:
    8,062
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Crimea and Eastern Ukraine.

    However, UNLIKE THE RANTING OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY - I see this as none of our national security interests and OPPOSE The Democratic Party desperately trying to radically ramp up a COLD WAR 2 in obscene racist and bigoted rants against Russians.
     
    GreenBayMatters likes this.
  22. Moonglow

    Moonglow Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2013
    Messages:
    20,754
    Likes Received:
    8,047
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Crimea and Eastern Ukraine were never Obama's to give away.
     
  23. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2013
    Messages:
    38,026
    Likes Received:
    16,042
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I watched the entire event today live.

    Of all of the Trump rallies over the past 2 1/2 years It was nothing but applauses and standing ovations at the VFW Convention.

    Now there were some combat vets who booed CNN and I'm guessing they were Vietnam combat vets because they didn't forget the lies that news media was reporting to the American people back home about Tet of 68.

     
    GreenBayMatters and JakeJ like this.
  24. Moonglow

    Moonglow Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2013
    Messages:
    20,754
    Likes Received:
    8,047
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Too late.
     
  25. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 5, 2015
    Messages:
    27,360
    Likes Received:
    8,062
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Anyone only has to look at ANY poll of those IN the military now to see how much they despise the Democratic Party.

    President Obama let American troops be killed by ISIS for nearly 8 years, even in the greatest treason ordered prior warnings of air raids be given so no ISIS troops were harmed and the missions failed. Instead, the Democrats wanted to give ISIS welfare and food stamp money.

    President Trump, to the contrary, gave our military permission to destroy ISIS - and a couple hundred thousand artillery shells, bombs and missiles later - within a month - we haven't heard a think of ISIS anymore and the American body bags from ISIS deaths ended.

    Try to find ANY message by ANY Democrat on this forum - even those claiming or pretending to be veterans - cheering the destruction of ISIS by our military. I can't. Maybe the ranting Democrat self-claimed veterans on this thread can point to their messages cheering our military's - on President Trump's orders - destroying ISIS and with virtually NO USA casualties. I bet they can't.

    While some officers and paper shufflers might vote Democrat and a few minorities will, told it is their submissive racial duty, I doubt 1 in 10 American personnel actually in combat voted Democrat - and this why the Obama administration made certain nearly all ballots cast by troops in combat zones where warehoused until after the deadline to submit them so their votes would NEVER be counted - as great an act of treason as possible. They did that on the base one of my children was stationed on - literally refused to allow them to be shipped - despite increasing protests - until the day AFTER the deadline.

    THAT is how anti-military the Democratic Party is and that is just one of 1000 reasons ANY military personnel that may ever be in combat should HATE the Democratic Party. To the Democratic Party, our troops are just petty sacrificial pawns in their ideological fantasy land.
     
    Last edited: Jul 24, 2018

Share This Page