Trump Says He Supports 'Intelligent' Background Checks

Crime, including gun crime, has soared in the UK since British subjects were disarmed. London is now just another urban hell hole.

"Gun crime was up 42% and knife crime rose 24%. Overall crime was up 4.5% to nearly 774,737 offences, with 16.72% counted as solved, down from 18.8% the previous year.

The Met published the figures on Wednesday as Her Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary highlighted “some areas of serious concern” – drawing attention to several problems faced by Britain’s largest force as its new commissioner, Cressida Dick, takes over."
THE GUARDIAN, Met police performance criticised as London gun and knife crime soar, London force releases figures on day HMIC highlights ‘serious concerns’ over child protection and crime detection, Vikram Dodd Police and crime correspondent,
Wed 12 Apr 2017.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-serious-concerns-over-met-police-performance

 

Gun control advocates can never get around the fact that as gun ownership has increased in the US, gun crime has gone down.

 

More people are beaten to death than killed by all rifles.

 

Someone needs to tell Trump and Republicans that, because they're preparing to hand a victory to the gun control movement.

 

Kind of like how a semi-automatic internet enables crime, child pornography, doxxing, and terrorism.

We should shut the internet down to make it harder for criminals to commit crimes.

I mean this thing didn't even exist when they wrote the Constitution.

 

Neither you nor I know what he's proposing so we might want to get the facts first yeah?

 

According to a study published in the American Journal of Medicine this spring, the gun homicide rate in the United States is more than 25 times higher than the rate in other high-income nations. Among 15-24 year olds, the rate is nearly 50 times higher. Of all gun fatalities in the 23 countries the researchers reviewed, 82% occur in the United States.

https://247wallst.com/special-report/2016/06/21/the-10-states-with-the-least-gun-violence/

STATES WITH THE LEAST GUN VIOLENCE

Hawaii
Rhode Island
Massachusetts
New York
Connecticut
New Jersey
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STATES WITH THE WORST GUN VIOLENCE

Alaska
Louisiana
Mississippi
Alabama
Montana
Arkansas
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Your self-serving, anecdotal opinion is noted. although states do vary as indicated above.

A high percentage of a local populace being gun dependent is only one factor.

Permissiveness in their acquisition is a major contributor.

Empirical data:

Analysis: Universal Background Checks Really Do Cut Gun Deaths
"...The truth is that we have a pretty good grasp at what's going on.
People who shouldn't have access to guns are getting access."
AUGUST 8, 2019


https://www.govexec.com/management/...round-checks-really-do-cut-gun-deaths/159025/​

 

Be that as it may, I don't attribute the lack of gun violence in our area to the prevalence of guns. Ultimately, our homes and community are safe because the individuals living within them take responsibility for themselves and our community.

 

He's proposing new gun control when he should be defending the second amendment without reservation or qualification.

 

(Washington Post) Zero correlation between state homicide rate and state gun laws

 

My only point is that their narrative of "more guns = more crime" is flatly contradicted by the evidence. They simply cannot reconcile their arguments with the facts, so they resort to emotional blackmail and intellectual sophistry instead.

 

(Washington Post) I used the think gun control was the answer. My research told me otherwise

 

This study has nothing to do with the proliferation of firearms and the level of firearm fatalities in the US, both exceeding all other advanced nations by a wide margin. Fortunately, the American People, overwhelmingly, are now demanding that the permissiveness be addressed.

 

Allowing innocents to die because of your insane paranoia , is more sickening

 

I have always supported gun control, regardless of party or policy.

 

Good ol' Wayne haven't sat Trump down to have a talk yet. Trump will go silent on this in another few weeks. We've seen how the clown operates.

 

I fear the worst

But at this point we really dont know

 

OK, now demonstrate taht coincidence is causality.

 

Don’t worry,

Trump is going to take all sides of the issue from one tweet to the next, and eventually do nothing.

McConnell won’t bring any measures to the floor unless he absolutely has to.

They’re all waiting for the audience to chase the next shiny object.

Until recently, the could count on Trump to say or do something stupid or irresponsible to provide that distraction’

But the audience seems to be getting bored and disgusted with the vulgarity, the tweets, and the obvious incompetence.

 

LOL Back to your 20 year old threads that have been thoroughly debunked many times!

 

In your dreams TJ.

In fact, the gun ban was a failure from the start, it is a matter of public record.

Decades after the gun ban all crime including gun crime has soared. How can that ever happen after gun are banned by law? Think it through.

“This week the West Midlands was labelled “the nation’s gun crime capital” as figures from the Office for National Statistics showed that the region now has a higher rate of firearms offences for its population than London.”
THE GUARDIAN, UK's 'gun crime capital': rancour and regret over West Midlands label, Josh Halliday, 2/20/2015.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...l-rancour-and-regret-over-west-midlands-label

 

Almost all Americans are now very afraid of their government.
That's why gun control is now the political third rail smart politicians will not touch.

 

Only in Daydream Believer Land.

"Donald J. Trump doesn’t always seem like a candidate focused on expanding his base of support. He may have done so anyway.
The share of Americans who say they have a favorable view of him has increased significantly since the 2016 election.

And over the last few months, some of the highest-quality public opinion polls, though not all, showed the president’s job approval rating — a different measure from personal favorability — had inched up to essentially match the highest level of his term."
THE NEW YORK TIME, Don’t Assume Trump’s Approval Rating Can’t Climb Higher. It Already Has. Millions of Americans who did not like the president in 2016 now say they do., By Nate Cohn, Aug. 7, 2019.

Reality really bites - doesn't it?

 

Trump comes from an NYC environment where he can get a concealed carry permit and Howard Stern can get a concealed carry permit, but the average person cannot get a carry permit. He is not to be trusted with respect to the 2nd Amendment IMHO.