Trump says he would listen if foreigners offered dirt on opponents

Nope what I said was that you posted all those words without doing more than a little lame obfuscation. First I don't think either Trump or Hillary is guilty of a crime vis a vis attempting to collect dirt about the other from anyone. 2nd I do think the use of the unverified and unverifiable dossier and other actions as an excuse to spy on the Trump campaign either is or ought to be.

 

Fusion GPS was started by a group of former Wall Street Journal reporters. It's an American company in the USA. After The Washington Free Beacon dropped them and ended the search for dirt on Hillary, Hillary hired them.... -a US company. So on what grounds are you objecting to Hillary hiring them?

 

Not if it was immediately turned over to the FBI or the FBI was present. Ain't rocket science.

 

And here is the interesting thing.... Let's say the CNN had a reporter in France interviewing Macron for some story and while there, Macron mentioned something scandalous to the reporter about Trump (this isn't at all actually likely to ever happen, but let's "suppose") and was specific enough to make it obviously true. Then the reporter comes home and tells Biden and Warren about it and they use it against Trump in their campaign.

Question for @Hoosier8 : Did Biden and Warren break the law, and why was it illegal or why not?

 

So now listening is a crime....hahaha!

 

Nope. Never. That's ridiculous.

 

A Repub ordered the dossier....

 

That is what traitors do....they ask for foreign help. trump did it in 2016....and he is doing it now.

 

Listen you say? I say that he would encourage it.

 

I am trying to see if there is any truth at all to that statement.

Nope. It is all fantasy. You learned well from. Just make up what your little heart desires, and reality can go to hell.

BTW, who in the world said speech is a crime? Nobody.

My point exactly.

 

Have you forgotten what you said already?

 

On Wednesday Trump said he was willing to get dirt on a political opponent from Russia, China, or some other hostile foreign government. He sees nothing wrong with that, and, no, he would not contact the FBI. In fact when his own appointee, FBI Director Chris Wray, said that is what campaigns should do, Trump said, “The F.B.I. director is wrong.”

On Friday, visiting the friendly folks on "Fox and Friends," Trump insisted he would both want to review information provided from a foreign government and give the information to the FBI, if it's "incorrect or badly stated."

"If I thought anything was incorrect or badly stated, I'd report to the FBI or law enforcement, absolutely," Trump.said.

"Everybody understands that and I thought it was made clear," Trump told Fox & Friends.

So, if the information is correct and stated well, nothing has change. He will give the information to the FBI only if it's "incorrect or badly stated."

“I don't think anybody would present me with anything because they know how much I love the country,” Trump said.

This guy is a piece of work.

 

Hiring a person from an allied country to do oppo research on an opponent is not the same as being approached by a foreign adversary (through dozens of different avenues) telling you they want to help you get elected by providing secret information about your opponent. This is particularly true when you are secretly doing business deals in said country that require government approval.

Anyone with an ounce of common sense would be concerned about the other nation's motives --- unless that candidate is compromised in some way or is happy to be a traitor to the nation they are seeking to lead if that's what it takes to win.

 

Which ended up asking a British spy to get dirt on Trump from a Russian with close ties to Putin.

It's nothing more than the shell game.

Anyway, it's not really important. What is important is that the democrats used that fake oppo research obtained by Russians to get a secret fisa warrant so they could spy on the Trump campaign.

That little scandal isn't going anywhere, boss. Where the fake intel came from is irrelevant. What is relevant are the signatures used to obtain that fisa warrant, and just how far down the rabbit hole this all goes.

 

You need to bone up on the concept of money laundering.

 

Have you seen a copy of the reported campaign contribution and expense for the dossier?

 

If you give Charlie $1000 to pay your rent are you not the rent payer? In your mind evidently not. You are seeming beyond help.

 

Barr and the DOJ are investigating the ties between the Clinton campaign and Fusion. We will see if this is really a scandal or just another silly diversion tactic by Trump and Barr. I would bet on the latter.

The OSC report stated that Rick Gates, Trumps deputy campaign chairman knowingly turned over internal polling data to an agent of the Russian government in the final months of the general election. The report also states that Russian agents were working illegally to hurt Hillary Clinton and help Trump get elected. Do you consider this collusion by Trumps campaign with foreign operatives?

 

No, I remember it quite well. I suggest you read it before commenting on it.

 

No, they are not the same. The former violates campaign finance laws and is illegal. The latter is legal. That you personally don't like something does not make it illegal. Did Schiff violate your laws when he agreed to accept Trump dirt from people who said they were Russians?

Who do you know that is doing secret business deals in another country? What country do you know of that doesn't require government approval to do business there?

 

Hillary paying for the dossier will probably at worst result in a violation of campaign finance laws, which is a felony but usually punished with a fine -- unless you are Trump in which case the powers will try to hang you. But the ill and nefarious use of the dossier is a gross abominable abuse of government authority and makes Hillary's payments look like child's play.

 

Yes. I paid a visit to Jim Comey's office and they showed me everything.

 

Can you clearly answer my question? Doesn't seem so.

 

Actually paying for fake dirt on your opposition isn't illegal. It's done all the time, although most aren't stupid enough to pay for fake "research". There's no crime for being born stupid.

 

Yes, but not reporting it is illegal.