TRUMP SHARES OLD VIDEOS OF SCHUMER, HILLARY, OBAMA SUPPORTING BORDER SECURITY

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  1. Adfundum

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    No worries, mate. I've done the same thing.

    Anyway, The numbers suggest 7 a day (not ten), but that doesn't mean captured at the border or that they are in our custody. It simply means that they were prevented from entering the country. They are stopped all over the world. The DHS document doesn't support what Trump and Pence are claiming.
     
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    How do you figure?
     
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    There are several studies that find that race relations are worse after Obama. He was an agitator who saw race as a dividing line. This is common among racists.
     
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    It is not my job to secure the border. However, if it was, I would definitely have multiple studies of various means used by benchmark countries. Physical impediments would be among these border securing methods.

    The fact that DHS is in favor of the wall leads me to believe walls are somewhat effective.
     
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    DHS is committed to building the wall. Your propaganda aside, experts feel the wall would be helpful. Why do big gov types such as yourself suddenly find disagreement with gov experts? These contradictions must be confusing. Also, that poll is almost 2 years old.
     
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    No. DHS says we need the wall. I keep hearing of these other effective measures used to secure the wall, but no one seems to say how much they will cost or if funding will be made available to implement them. It seems like a diversion to fake interest in securing the border while holding an open border agenda.
     
  7. US Conservative

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    ...and it makes top dems look bad. Thats the best part.
     
  8. Adfundum

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    Only the Dems? Dude . . .
     
  9. US Conservative

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    Agreed.
     
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    Race relations in America are worse because of Obama simply because he was elected President of the United States. Obama didn't do anything to cause a rift, the ugly underbelly of America was exposed and then exploited by Trump and his backers and continues to this day.
     
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    Ridiculous. It's the Left that are racists.

    Do Americans really worry about the non-shutdown 'government shutdown'?

    Chuck Schumer doesn't seem to realize that he is re-staging a famous scene in the movie Blazing Saddles.
     
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    What would be a "benchmark country" for border security?
    The "fact" that DHS "is in favor of the wall" means nothing because what you're actually saying is the Trump lacky in charge of the dept. wants the wall.
     
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    They are? Why, because you say so?
     
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    He did cause a rift. He continually did it on purpose.
     
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    Israel, India, south Korea, etc.
     
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    Well hey. We had Republicans who cheered the individual mandate in the ACA when it was a republican idea. But once the Dems adopted it, not a single republican would support it.

    Not to mention, I am pretty sure the idea they had for a border "wall" wasnt the same as Trump wants.

    And how to you get around taking tons of personal property from people to build this wall? I mean, thats a lot of eminent domain to claim.
     
  17. US Conservative

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    It was "republican idea" by a RINO, in a lefty state-and applied only to that state.

    The ACA was nation wide-and not one Republican voted for it.

    I suspect you know this but prefer to try and muddy the waters.

    In any case, America got an early Christmas present in it being found unconstitutional.
     
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    :applause::roflol: Really? Israel...in a state of undeclared war on all borders. India.....in a state of undeclared war with it's neighbors. South Korea....in a state of war.
    Mexico is our ally.
     
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    How? By pointing out he is black?
     
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    And it will never be upheld in appeals. I think you know that.
     
  21. US Conservative

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    Lets see how SCOTUS feels.
     
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    Well, the same 5 justices who voted it in in the first place are still on the court. Unless you can get one of them to retire before it gets to the SC, I dont see how it stands.

    Also, and lets not forget here. The mandate STILL EXISTS. And so does the penalty for not having insurance. They just made the tax and penalty 0 dollars.
     
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    If the mandate has no teeth its effectively neutered.
     

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