Trump signs sanctions bill against German pipeline

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  1. gnoib

    gnoib Well-Known Member

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    At the present one could say the same about the US, too.
     
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    You Europeans expect way too much from the people that pay all your bills and save you countless times from Nazis.

    Lol!
     
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    Spim Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'll be honest I couldn't really care less what Germany thinks about this or anything if the OP and the pattern of posts made by the OP almost always negative and almost always anti USA) any indication of German attitudes they can stick it where the sun dont shine and twist.
     
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    Wünsch ich dir und deiner Familie auch. :)

    I dont dislike your people. I dont see your people and regimr as identical.
     
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    Not really, bro. Not from a German perspective.

    In this case, Germany is not the target of American foreign policy. It's against Russia. As always, the Russkies are a threat to the free world. Keeping them away from the European market means an increase in security and stability.
     
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    Germany should put sanctions on US LNG, because of fracking and the companies which do it.
    Its prohibited because of environmental reasons and thus it should be banned, including the companies who do this polluting practice and their assets in Europe should be frozen, same for any company which supports the fracker and their product.

    One could give it a nice name.
    Safe the US environment act, to prevent fracker to destroy the environment and the world. Than demand, that the US has to import German Green Technology at an extra cost of 30%.
     
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    At least Ron Paul is honest and made it clear, that it is about selling US gas and so produce jobs and money for the US.
    The rest is just a fricking lie to justify the act.
     
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    Lies don't travel far. Your anti-Americanism is nearly pathological. :(
     
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    There's nothing wrong with that. In any case, it is better than leaving the deal to the Russians.
     
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    Buuuuuuuuuuhhhhaaaaaaaaaa.
    Are you joking.
    Who is behind the act? Lying Ted Cruz, Senator from the fracking paradise called Texas.
    This is nothing but about LNG, not Russia, but Russian gas.
    The US has been pushing its expensive crap with Trump as front man.
    Germany has always imported Soviet and Russian gas. It became a political problem, when the US changed its laws and allowed the export of its fracking gas. Suddenly the Russian ex Soviet gas became a big deal.
     
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    Get competitive and than come back. The US behaves worse than Russia or even the former USSR.
     
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    nearly? lol. your just being nice.
    I would have said "certified"
     
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    Identifying people with particular regimes again? That's the type of thinking that leads to war.

    Take China.

    Here is a comparison of China's state controlled capitalism with US "invisible hand" capitalism.

    https://ellenbrown.com/2019/08/09/neoliberalism-has-met-its-match-in-china/

    America’s chief competitor in the trade war is obviously China, which subsidizes not just worker costs but the costs of its businesses. The government owns 80% of the banks, which make loans on favorable terms to domestic businesses, especially state-owned businesses. Typically, if the businesses cannot repay the loans, neither the banks nor the businesses are put into bankruptcy, since that would mean losing jobs and factories. The non-performing loans are just carried on the books or written off. No private creditors are hurt, since the creditor is the government, and the loans were created on the banks’ books in the first place (following standard banking practice globally).
    (……..)
    Just as the US had engaged in a Cold War to destroy the Soviet communist model, so Western financial interests set out to destroy this emerging Asian threat. It was defused when Western neoliberal economists persuaded Japan and the Asian Tigers to adopt the free-market system and open their economies and their companies to foreign investors. Western speculators then took down the vulnerable countries one by one in the “Asian crisis” of 1997-98. China alone was left as an economic threat to the Western neoliberal model, and it is this existential threat that is the target of the trade and currency wars today.
    (……)
    But the Chinese system, while obviously not perfect, has an impressive track record for sustaining long-term growth and development. While the U.S. manufacturing base was being hollowed out under the free-market model, China was systematically building up its own manufacturing base, investing heavily in infrastructure and emerging technologies; and it was doing this with credit generated by its state-owned banks. Rather than trying to destroy China’s economic system, it might be more “favourable to U.S. interests and values” for us to adopt its more effective industrial and banking practices.
     
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    We build the pipeline and american LNG is dead here.
     
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    So being patriotic is anti american now. You know whats anti anerican? To act like a shithole tyranny trying to dictate an allied nation energy politics.
     
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    It's about Russkie influence in Europe. It was never good and will do a lot of damage this time too.
     
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    You dont keep them away. The sanctions unified entire german political soectrum behind the project. Basicly this retarded fecission made sure, that it is build.
     
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    I'm always nice to him. Nevertheless, he denounced me to the admin when I affectionately called him "Kraut". :(
     
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    Why so many typos, boy? You seem pretty tense. Calm down! High blood pressure is never healthy. :(
     
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    The problem is that people refuse to acknowledge who is behind the invasions. The situation will continue to worsen until that happens.
     
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    Inbred?

    Anybody who claims people who don't align with their viewpoints, and thus they must be stupid, might just be the one with the issue.

    Here is the deal, you want this kum-by-ya liberal fairy tale where everybody gets along, there is no evil in the world, and we should all pretend that if we are just nice to people they will be nice to us absolute non-sense... fine.

    Let's pull all of our military out of Europe, Asia, and the middle east.

    How long before we are drawn back in to save our allies.

    Don't be naive.
     
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    wellllllllll, you have to be Proud to be a Kraut
     
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    When did it save ? Can you count to 0 ?
     
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    I think it is the other way around, he needs good paying and reliable customers. Without them Russia will fall apart and he will be out of a job and might swing from a lamp pole.
    It has been them same way with the Soviets, good reliable customer with a hard currency.
    Money talks sh... walks.

    I consider this a bigly mistake. The pipeline will get finished. Count on that. But in the future US energy products will be less welcome.
    It will pure oil into the fire of anti US sentiments in Europe, because of its imperial, arrogant behavior.
    It gives Putin an other food in the door. All he has to do stay cool and act like a adult and help finish the pipeline.
    No better propaganda tool, a Christmas Present.
    It shows to all the companies involved in the project, how dangerous it is to have assets in the US. If you have you might become a victim of US foreign policies, were the rule of law has become rather questionable.
     
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    Glad everything worked out.
     

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