Trump will ask athletes who kneel during anthem to recommend people for pardoning

Name them that Obama pardoned. And Yes for me.

 

The bottom line im getting at is HYPOCRISY. That's the word of the day. When Obama made executive decisions he was TORN APART from the alt right. Basically everything Trump has done was through executive order and now he's just Willy nilly pardoning any celebrity who walks through the door asking for one..

 

I was going to reply to your points but I realized, you don't seek solution.

 

I know this.

If Trump and Hannity claimed they cured cancer, you would deny any subsequent cancer death as a conspiracy and it didn’t happen.

 

There was no "alt-right" during Obama days.

Obama made policies like bombing 7 different countries than what was allowed by congress, that's unconstitutional. Trumps executive orders have pretty much just been nixing Obama's EOs. That's pretty much why he was elected. That's not hypocrisy, its constitutional.

 

Rememebr when Trump said he was gonna lower drug prices. Another broken promise.

 

Release??

First, you have to be clear that you are not talking about drug users, you are talking about sellers or distributors, right? I don't believe a single drug user should be in jail (unless they commit other crimes when on drugs)....

It's case by case for me, but no, I think they are violating US law and should serve time....

The issue with this particular lady is it sounds like the sentence was too harsh for the crime...

 

Best way to do that is to get rid of paten laws. I cant wait.

 

Precisely, what your OP was all about and you doubled down on the BS by ignoring the corrective while simultaneously embracing the perpetual lie.

Do you know the definition of Underlying Premise. You stated as a matter of fact, a False Premise. You then drew a conclusion from that factually false premise. That makes you either incompetent to have this discussion, or a flat out Trumpeteering Liar.

Pick one.

This is his and your problem. You lack common sense. You don’t correct a wrong at net Effect. You correct a wrong at the instantiation of Cause. We live in a Cause and Effect universe, not the Alt Universe that you and Trump, inhabit. Inside a Cause and Effect universe, there can be no net Effect without First Cause First Premise. The net effect of a Broken Criminal Justice System, is the Causation of wrongful incarceration.

The very fact that you and Trump, cannot abide common sense rational logic is painfully obvious here.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html

This list is not inclusive of his pathological bigotry. I should not have to provide you with such information. You should have done the homework prior to throwing your weight behind such a Demagogue.

 

Do you think this part is the easy, or hard part to correct? Do those in jails suffering from an imperfect system (better than anywhere else but still ran by imperfect humans) just remain till the whole system has been over hauled and we give total autonomy to HAL to make all decisions of guilt or acquittal? Or do we release the ones being imprisoned unjustly and THEN fix the system?

BTW, what is you idea and solutions for fixing the best system in the world to keep it from being imperfect ran by imperfect humans?

 

He’s the President. Trumpets put him there. As President now, he has a much larger platform upon which common sense dictates that dealing with the low hanging fruit of issuing pardons should secondary to dealing with the broken System of injustice.

Issue pardons, not pardoning photo ops. Issue pardons, not political stunts involving Reality TV “Stars” standing in the Oval Office. Issuing pardons does not require his public stunts made for TV and to Shameless and Shamlessly plug his insincere agenda to secure votes from the very community that he has shown complete disrespect for in the past.

 

So you are against the free press covering these events of the POTUS pardoning maybe hundreds of people from jail? If he did his work in the dead of night, do you honestly think he will get a pass from the media? These are put out there so that he can be held accountable, unlike when Obama sent $400 billion to Iran in the shadows of the night.

 

Addicted users without means become sellers.

See the problem? Rich folks don't need to deal to use, poor folk do. Rich girls just use, poor girls become prostitutes for their addiction. Rich boys just use, poor boys steal and sling.

Got it?

 

No. You can’t reply to my post because you wouldn’t offer anything but a nonseqitur feigning a reply on the merits.

You were just given the real solution, yet you can’t admit as much because it cuts against the grain of Trumpet Delusion Syndrome (TSD).

Trump, moves to deal with the problem at Effect (pardons that don’t fix the broken System). You respond with blindness so evident that you cannot see Causation (fixing the broken System that causes the need to issue pardons). That's the problem in a nutshell.

You lack a fundamental understanding of Cause ALWAYS preceding net Effect.

Show proof of a single example anywhere in the universe where net Effect comes before instantiating Causation (?).

 

Hmmm really?? Outside of Alice Johnson, how many of Trumps pardons to date got somebody out of jail?

Was Joe Arpaio in jail?? ** Was Saucier?? Was Scooter? Was Jack Johnson??

How about mentioned pardons - Is Muhammad Ali??? Martha Stewart?? Rod Blagojevich??

** F*cker should have been

When Trump starts consistently pardoning actual people in jail instead of political hacks or celebrity causes, come post about accountability, please....

 

These guys went from patriots to "son of a botched" in a hurry, didn't they?

 

It’s not about whether fixing the System is hard. It’s about whether fixing the System is right. The fact that you cannot see this is very disturbing for a nation calling itself “A Thousand Points of Light.”

If your car blows a cylinder head, you don’t give it an oil change. You fix the engine. If your child is being miseducated at school, you fix the school.

By definition, fixing the broken criminal injustice system will result in sending people home who do not deserve to be in prison, while leaving those that do.

Instead, this president would rather invite TV personalities to DC, in order to put on a show for Black People, pretending to be concerned about what ails them. Who can’t see that.

 

He isn't.

He's floating a smokescreen for the fact that he was persona non grata at the G-7. He isn't comfortable with real world leaders. They know he's a wannabe clown with the mentality of a ten year old.

So he plays the culture wars so Fox can go on about it in prime time tonight.

He knows that the Trumpster audience thinks this sort of BS is important, which is why he keeps flogging it.

 

Its about the possibility of where this will go. Especially IF he does decide to decriminalize MJ.

 

So now all one has to do is suck up to the President to get a pardon?


Why doesn't he just pardon everyone?

 

If your car has 7 million people in it telling you what will and wont work to fix the problem, Id be all for it.

As in, sending them home who don't deserve to be there? He's proposing exactly what you are clamoring for. Even the decriminalizing MJ.

But please, what is your remedy to fix what you think is the problem?

 

Trumpsters I would think the G7 is BS and our POTUS should be focused on our own nation first. First world problems, our problems are going around the prison system and the NFL. Surprising enough, a lot of NFL player end up in the prison system. Who'd of thunk that players want the system reformed when they have a high probability ending up in that system that will punish them?

 

He isn't going to decriminalize Marijuana either.

His has spent the entire day throwing crap at the wall.

He doesn't want his base thinking about the fact that he was welcomed with almost open hostility by our traditional allies, and that he's about to go into a summit with North Korea, without having talked to any of his advisors, and with no plan or real preparation.

Instead, he wants to fill the little minds of the Trumpster fan base with visions of maybe legalized MJ, pardons for Mohammed Ali (who was exhonorated, eliminating the need for a pardon), and another attempt to milk the NFL player gimmick.

And yes, these are all gimmicks. Nothing more. Trump doesn't care about any of them. But he wants the blogger blogging about them, the disc jockeys in AM radio screaming about them, and Sham Hammity bleating about them.

Better this tabloid trash stuff , than paying attention to the important stuff.

 

You have proven yourself to be irrational with this post. The 1st Amendment has nothing to do with anything stated here. Yet, another red herring nonsequitur reply because you can’t handle the correction of the underlying false premise in the OP.

Partial sanctions on Iran were lifted. The money belonged to Iran, in the first place. The money did not belong to US. It wa not $400 billion, but facts have never mattered to Trumpets. Less than $50 billion of Iran’s own money was accessible in return for LIFETIME nuclear inspections and a full Inspections regime to guarantee that Iran, could not enrich or spin beyond agreed upon limits required for national energy purposes. This would have stopped Iran, from moving forward with weapons grad enrichment, which is now exactly what Iran will be doing thanks to Trump’s failed leadership. The Obama lead deal was known about by anyone paying attention. The details were talked about and discussed on CSPAN and national Media outlets almost from the start. Of course, facts once again don’t matter to Trumpets.

Comparing the Iran deal to politicizing pardons by using TV stars, is some of the worst conflagration and nonsequitur I’ve seen on this board. They are not even remotely compatible cocncepts.

 

Brilliant. if they take the bait, we'll all learn who BLMers consider 'victims of the system' and can roll our eyes even harder.

Mumia Abu-Jamal's name will surely be on the list. as would the Gentle Giant's, had he survived his inadvertent SBC and been marched off to prison