Trumps Blasts Russian-German Gas Pipeline that will Enrich Russia at NATO meeting

Don't you mean Al Qaeda / ISIS ground forces ?

 

NO!

Our military and that of other NATO nations did their job. The military operation was spectacular! Through our ability to watch ground movements, we could coordinate ground forces to avoid strong points and could hit those strong points hard.

The combined forces under NATO and the allied ground forces literally slaughtered the opposition.

The problem is that that is ALL WE HAD.

We had NO answer to the real problems of Libya, and the result is that radical militias including terrorist groups could operate as they chose.

Military is NOT ENOUGH. A military-only strategy FAILS. We see this over and over again.

 

How many of NATO's 29 members did their job ?

List them.

 

That is totally irrelevant to the issue of NATO nations spending more on their own military capability.

Even if YOU produced such a list it would be meaningless unless you could show that the reason they didn't participate was that they hadn't spent 2% of their GDP on their military.

 

Out of NATO's 29 members, only five European NATO members participated and add the USA and Canada you get 7 out of 29.

I think Germany, Poland and the other NATO members knew what the regime change in Libya was all about.

For France it was all about oil and for Obama it was about supporting the Arab Spring hoping to put the Muslim Brotherhood in power.

It didn't work out that way for Obama, it just helped Al Qaeda and ISIS becoming larger, more powerful and more dangerous.

 

Oh, good lord.

I already pointed out what you need to show as reasons for your complaint about NATO participation in Libya.

And, Obama was not interested in supporting the Muslim Brotherhood.

 

• President Obama appears to have been told that if all these secular dictators could be brought down, a magnificent Arab Spring would blossom. This was, it seems, precisely the goal of the Muslim Brotherhood: to get America's help to topple the dictatorships -- then mostly military and secular -- but then to replace them with themselves, Islamists.
  
  
• After Egypt took down the Muslim Brotherhood, the goal of establishing the Islamic Caliphate in Egypt simply moved to Syria, the only Arab nation where a secular Muslim leader had survived the Arab Spring.
  
  
• Promoting Islam also seems to have been a major factor in Obama's equation for America. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton followed suit, hosting several closed-door conferences on "Defamation of Religion," to suppress free speech and internationally criminalize any criticism of Islam with fines and prison. She would rather blame terrorism on free speech than on the violent tenets of Islam.
  
  
• This escalating subversion should be reason enough for all Western democratic countries permanently to part company with the United Nations. Its history of corruption is neither new nor surprising, or that it is run anti-democratic "club of dictators" whose interests are opposite to ours.
  

 

He was mercilessly ridiculed around Germany for his embarrassing behavior.

 

First of all, Gatestone institute is an anti-Muslim hate group that is known for publishing falsehoods that have been constructed to go viral.

The Arab Spring in Egypt had to do with the government not serving the people. The people of Egypt were quite well educated, yet there were no jobs for them. The military ran a significant portion of the economy, including manufacturing, etc. When we imported from Egypt, the source of our imports was most likely to be the Egyptian military. The US supported that government strongly, and were pretty much taken by surprise when the revolution approached.

The US connection to the failed regime made it essentially impossible for the US to take a constructive role in building a new Egyptian government. In fact, pretty much any principle traceable to America was distrusted by the people of Egypt, given our history there.

I understand that you said "appears to have" and other words that make it clear that what you are saying is in grave doubt. That was a good move on your part, given how wrong many of those statements are. It's well known that Obama strongly opposed the militants who were so successful in displacing those interested in a more democratic and liberal government.

"Promoting Islam" is nothing but a cheap shot. Essentially everybody there is Muslim. Christians number barely 10%. ANY amount of interaction with Egypt could be labeled "promoting Islam" if you happen to be a Muslim hate group like the one you cite. And, your accusations against Clinton make no sense AT ALL.


Finally, you jump back to NATO. But, Egypt doesn't have anything to do with NATO. Neither does the religion of Islam.

I just do not see even one morsel of material that is on topic in your post.

 

I think people forget that the Cold War is over. Russia is not going to control Germany.

 

Trump is the worst official representative of America since we passed our constitution.

 

Harding to cite only one example was worse.

 

No it's not, the Gatestone Institute is a neoconservative think tank .
John Bolton is associated with the Gatestone Institute just like Barack Obama is associated with the Muslim Brotherhood.

 

I thought neocons lost influence after the Iraq debacle.

Trump started out a neo-isolationist and now endorses... (I am really not sure what)

 

Most NATO countries have land that is EAST of Germany's eastern border.

We are NOT going to accept the idea of allowing Russia to move its border to Germany.

And, Russia does see portions of that land as being rightful possessions. Russia is SERIOUSLY upset with the Clintons, who broke agreements that these nations wouldn't be part of NATO.

One can guess reasons for Russia to work for Clinton to lose - even without the various deals and easy manipulability of the Manchurian Candidate, Trump.

 

Yeah? Well, Germany's military is the real joke.

JA. NÄCHSTE FRAGE? Is Germany’s Navy Dead?

The Luftwaffe ist kaput, too.

 

And they KNOW IT....