Trumps Blasts Russian-German Gas Pipeline that will Enrich Russia at NATO meeting

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  1. Grokmaster

    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    BOOM!

    SO much for Trump "doing Putin's bidding", the ONGOING LIE from the left, who continue to pretend THIS ALL DIDN'T HAPPEN:

    giving Putin control of 20% of our uranium reserves, refusing to build the European missile defense shield, refusing to arm the Ukraine, promising "more flexibility after the election" and then ordering a STAND DOWN instead of countermanding Russian meddling in 2016. Der.

    We all SAW who "shilled for Putin".

    Looks like it's GERMANY doing Putin's bidding...almost as much as OBAMA DID, while Pres.Trump CONFRONTS HIM...again :

    The Russian pipeline to Germany that Trump is so mad about, explained


    BERLIN — When German officials headed to the NATO summit in Brussels this week, they were already prepared for what they considered to be an inevitable attack by President Trump over their low defense spending.

    But on Wednesday morning, Trump took aim at the Germans for a very different reason: an 800-mile-long, planned pipeline beneath the Baltic Sea. The German government has been pursuing its Nord Stream 2 project for years, despite criticism from the United States and some Eastern European nations.

    Trump renewed the long-standing U.S. criticism of the project on Wednesday, and doubled down by tying it to the future of NATO. “Germany, as far as I’m concerned, is captive to Russia because it’s getting so much of its energy from Russia,” Trump told NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, speaking on camera. “We have to talk about the billions and billions of dollars that’s being paid to the country we’re supposed to be protecting you against.”


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...o-mad-about-explained/?utm_term=.1e245751f04b
     
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    It is PRESIDENT TRUMP, who pursues the interests of the US, in all things.

    He isn't at NATO to kiss their moochin' a**es….while they are working to further enrich Russia, while bypassing other NATO nations...
     
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    Germany is a traitor and sell out.

    Turns out Merkel is Putin's puppet.
     
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    Congress issued SANCTIONS against companies involved in building it , starting FOUR YEARS AGO. Of course, OBAMA, not wanting to offend Putin, DID NOTHING...as could be expected.
     
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    I imagine this was just more flexibility? It's funny how the collective accuses Trump of being Putins b**** when clearly Obama was Putin's b****.
     
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    The left's ability to ignore/deny the OBVIOUS FACTS in that matter are PATHOLOGICAL...
     
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    It is a testament to the effectiveness of the collectives brainwashing abilities. Drones are programmed to only receive information from sources they control and then program to believe that they themselves are smarter than everyone around them. This makes them narcissistic and hard to reach. This is how stuff like this can get by. they assume it's not true because they would know about it because they are so smart.
     
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    They cannot even respond to emerging issues without getting their "spoonfed" talking points...then they all show up with the SAME "buzzwords" and phrases...
     
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    "Crickets" from the left, as the POTUS has sent their "Putin's Puppet" bullcrap narrative down in flames, on DAY ONE of the NATO meeting....

    down in flames.jpg
     
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    Wait...so we don't like Russia now? Hard to keep up.

    Also, I'm pretty sure that Trumps opposition is based less on being Anti-Russia, and more about getting more US LNG business

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/arti...ipeline-is-new-front-in-u-s-clash-with-europe

     
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    Let me make this very simple for you. If you imagine for a second that Trump-Russia collusion is an absurd baseless liberal/MSM lie, slander and conspiracy theory that it is, all pieces will automatically fall into places and keeping up with us will be a no-brainer.

    Give it a shot... you are welcome ;)
     
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    IF every immigrant from the middle east would bring a barrel of two of oil with them Germany would be ok...
     
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    I wonder if Merkel traded Germany's borders and the influx of refugees for a Russian oil pipeline
     
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    Tried that. Failed due to ample evidence to the contrary. I mean, how many coincidences have to occur around the same thing before it becomes a pattern? 5? 10? more?
     
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    I see. Sorry but there is NO evidence of collusion, none whatsoever, not just no damning evidence, there is no circumstantial evidence either, no money trail, no documents, no collusion related indictments or pleas. Nothing....

    But hey, i was just trying to explain why it's so hard for you to keep up with us. People who believe in a conspiracy often find it hard to follow those who rely on facts. :)
     
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    For the record, I don't think that Trump is Putin's puppet. But that's not because there isn't a lot of circumstantial (or is it coincidental?) evidence. There is, and actually this OP provides more. Its because I require more than circumstantial evidence to conclude Trump is treasonous.

    From Putin's perspective this is all win. His biggest political rival is Merkel, and she now has egg on her face. She can't do anything about the pipeline, realistically, so there is no chance that Trump attacking along these lines will backfire. Thus Trump "Putin's puppet" has better cover because its something Trump can point to for being anti-Russia. Germans are nervous, NATO is nervous.

    In the meantime, people are talking about a pipeline instead of the real issue - Crimea.

    And what did Trump have to say about Crimea? Well if the following source is to be believed-

    "At the G-7 summit, he told leaders that he believed Crimea belonged with Russia because most of its residents are Russian-speaking, another position that would upend much of the West’s security decisions against Russia since 2014."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.0c7f825b0548
     
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    Nice dodge on the coincidence question. Also, just because you haven't seen such evidence, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Personally, I honestly don't' believe there was an 'active deal' between Trump and Putin. I think that Trumps team sought out whatever help they could get against Hillary, from Russia and whomever else would offer, and I think that Trump is tied up with Russian Oligarchs and Mobsters and was laundering money for them through his hotels after they helped get him loans in the 90s when no US Bank would loan him another dime. for Putin, Trump winning accomplished his goal, sow discord and chaos into the Western Democratic system, which Trump is doing like a Bull in a China shop.

    But yeah, continue to laser focus on one component (active collusion) and forgo any other possibilities that have way more evidence surrounding them that's harder to ignore.
     
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    Germany can scream and try all they like but they are not paying the minimum they agree to with NATO and if they are getting 70% of their energy from Russia they are absolutely held captive by that country. Trump once again is right.
     
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    Do try and keep up for once Cubed. At least this time it isn't Canadian law. :)

    If you are beholden to 70% of your energy from Russia they control you. Trump is absolutely right.

    Your word for the day: Diversify
     
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    This is bookmarked for when the report comes out citing no collusion between Trump and Russia. :)
     
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    Merkel is from East Germany....

    Gotta remember that tidbit
     
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    Germany should definetly do more to meet its NATO commitments, and I am glad our president is putting the feet to the flame on this. I hope that Germany has a comprehensive plan for dealing with the energy crises that would ensue if Putin leveraged that pipeline. Hopefully that's what Trump and Merkel will hash out in their meeting.
     
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    So you kill two birds with one stone. One can say that the price difference is made up(or more than made up) by our commitment to NATO. I'd say that for the record to Chancellor Merkel. The European nations cannot expect us to bail them out, while aiding our adversaries.

    Just like we're not opposed to a trade agreement with our neighboring nations here in North America, we just want an equal and fair one for all three of us.
     
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