Trump's military put into perspective

You’re right Biden is not very sound on economy either. Neither party seems to know what needs to be done. They assume everyone will want to buy US and other countries just have the means to produce labor and resources as China. China also holds the leadership position in the UN for economy. That means most global economy decisions will be in favor of China. Most of this is happening right under Trump’s nose and the reason he is to blame for most of it is because he is outspoken about how great he is in China. I got news, he has lost to China. Then he turns around and publicly praises China about the coronavirus just to get a new trade deal done while secretly knowing Americans will get wiped out

 

May they all build ships based on the Zumwalt. So much for OUR littoral vessels!

https://html.duckduckgo.com/html?q=uss zumwalt problems

 

that was not our finest moment

 

So your point is that only you know anything about this. Amazing how many people think that selective memories from their own experience defines the entire system.

I have a paper around here somewhere, called an "Honorable Discharge" ending my service with the United States Army. Another military record showing that I scored higher on OCS candidacy test than the other 113 men taking it. You ASSUME that nobody else has been there unless they agree with you. You say you watched. Nice that you got to watch. By the way, watching isn't doing, and hardly the definition of the big picture.

 

I put their 16 opinions over your 1 opinion. That sounds reasonable doesn't it?

 

"48 CFR § 1552.237-76 - Government-Contractor Relations."
"(a) The Government and the Contractor understand and agree that the services to be delivered under this contract by the contractor to the Government are non-personal services and the parties recognize and agree that no employer-employee relationship exists or will exist under the contract between the Government and the Contractor's personnel. It is, therefore, in the best interest of the Government to afford both parties a full understanding of their respective obligations."

"(1) The services to be performed under this contract do not require the Contractor or his/her personnel to exercise personal judgment and discretion on behalf of the Government. Rather the Contractor's personnel will act and exercise personal judgment and discretion on behalf of the Contractor."
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/48/1552.237-76

 

how about you stop using biased articles and use government websites

https://www.osec.doc.gov/oam/acquis...ith Support Serviices Contractors (Final).pdf

 

i said facts and polls so you’re putting 16 opinions over 1.3 million. So yes your opinion is flawed.

 

If you knew as much as you thought you know, you would look a lot smarter.
At the time I served, they did have a test. Things change- but you sound too young and smart to know that. The military has long offered the chance for commission to college graduates, but at least in my time, they also wanted to know if you actually had what they were looking for rather than a degree in floral art or poetry. They have become less particular today.

So you don't have an honorable discharge? Or at least don't know the difference between the form actuating discharge and the certificate awarded, which apparently you haven't seen.
I have a DD214 of course- while the form may have changed, there is a space (box 13a on mine) titled "Character of Service". Mine says "Honorable" You may not have that, I don't know.
DD 214 is just a conventional form in appearance, of which the military has thousands. Not much different looking that a supply requisition. It's the document (Armed Forces of the United States Report of Transfer or Discharge) of record which enables the discharge AND defines the status (honorable, dishonorable, medical, etc) which is then issued in a form similar to a diploma, which is far more suitable for display should you choose- or at least was as the time I served. By now, they may just tell you to go away; hang your 214 on the wall if you like. Still use the 214 on occasion to prove military service occasionally.

Why are you so adversarial? Does the idea the person you are mocking actually has been there, done that and has equivalent experience intimidate you, make you fear something?

I remember back in basic training (Ft Leonard Wood) how some of the guys who had been there 10 days thought they were superior to those who had been there only 7 days- because all the things they used to use in civilian life to make them different and superior to other people had been taken away. Found that very amusing that they were so desperate for some seniority, anything to be able to portray at least somebody as less so they could make fun of them, and tell themselves they were still superior. Not applicable here; I'm afraid my seniority is way beyond yours. Your responses tell me you that you, like those 10-day recruits, need something to give you credit, meaning you think your personal value depends on comparison to others. It does not.... but it's pretty clear you don't know that.

 

Your own link.
"The federal government is generally restricted from entering into "personal service contracts", which FAR 37.104(a) defines as contracts that are "characterized by the employer-employee relationship it creates between the Government and the contractor's personnel." This restriction prevents circumvention of federal civil service laws that are applicable to hiring federal employees, including competitive appointment procedures.
In addition, it is only a memorandum. It is not a regulation.

 

so point proven

 

lol you’re funny. You are like a fish out of water right now looking to cling to anything for support hoping it can save you

ocs has never had an admissions test. It has a final test that will determine your placement and mos based on how high you score you may or may not get your picks. does not matter what your degree is.

 

Just so you understand what it says. It says the government may not enter into a contract with an employee of a contractor. It other words, they cannot hire him or consider him their employee.

 

the DD214 is the discharge paperwork and it has been the same for 60 years so unless you served in WWII you would have gotten a DD214. This is comical

 

it actually states “generally restricted” but on contracts such as intelligence or weapon development they are allowed. You are clueless my man. Why do you even continue? This is an irrelevant topic. You hate being wrong huh

 

Trump haters who do understand Navy aircraft carrier launch and recovery operations know how time-tested steam-driven systems have met hundreds of thousands of launches (and maybe more than a million!) since 1954 when the Hancock first sent a jet off its bow. Compare to the Lincoln and its catapult failures. Whoever accepted that without extensive further testing should be kicked out of a lowflying chopper over an island with a water supply and one, count it, one coconut tree. Undoing that epic botch eats up money needed for routine refits unrelated to specific issues, e.g., replacement of parts.

 

Again you are clueless. A 10 day recruit and 7 day recruit do not hold any seniority. They go to basic at the same time. What you are referring to is the time you get issued all the gear and get your medical shots... at which point nobody is looking to hold seniority over anyone.

 

Nowhere does it say it is allowed on contracts such as intelligence or weapons development? The regulation makes no exceptions.

And, by the way, you are the one who first brought up this about contractor's employees being government employees.

 

Like I stated before if you had experience you would know. I’m over this topic. You want to be right be right, but I know you have zero military experience

 

You don't "know" any such thing.

 

Advice I shall take to heart here in speaking to a youngster like yourself. Impertinent git what I am.

DD-214 is a consolidated record of service citing any awards, the highest enlisted rank (in the Navy, rating) --- and as mentioned...did you get out without badness on that paper? To get a Good Conduct Award for example ranks such an entry.

Not addressed to you...

Advice to a certain poster within this thread. Never assume someone is lying when they know their subject so well and the only thing in question is when what they used to know ever changed.

 

You are not very good at it.

By the way, you said you were done with with a half dozen times or so already.

 

google goes a long way.
But just so you know DD214 is the official discharge paperwork for any service member. It outlines your service, characterization of discharge and reason for discharge.... I’m not aware of anyone getting a diploma. But if you were actually in the military you would know it’s every service members goal to receive a DD214 as that means you made it and are finally out... these are the things that tell a real vet if someone is lying or not. The moment you downplay the DD214 it tells any vet you are lying. So if you choose to flaunt being a vet I suggest you emphasize your DD214 not downplay it. It will help you with your lie a lot more

 

Another pro tip from someone who did serve six years active.

Just because the original poster DOES NOT use a specific term (in this case DD-214) is no reason to call him a liar. Close re-reading of your posts shows this clearly was an attack for what was NOT there.

 

Ok