Trump's Poll Numbers Are At An All-Time Low

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  1. Borat

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    It's interesting that 9 months into Bush's presidency he and(not Clinton was blamed for 9/11 but 9 months into Trump's presidency Obama and not Trump takes credit for the economy. Sorry dude, you can't have it both ways.

    America's NATO allies in Europe and Canada will increase defense spending by 4.3% in 2017, according to official NATO statistics released Thursday
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/29/politics/nato-members-increase-defense-spending/

    The travel ban, pipelines, ISIS being on the ropes, Paris agreement cancellation, TPP death... all have little actual force, right?
     
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    You're going to Credit ISIS " being on the ropes " to Trump ? Come on..........

    The Supreme Court is scheduled to decide the overall legality of the ban in the fall, but it allowed a scaled-down version of the ban to go into effect.

    Trump's a Loser !
     
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    No, not me, the Trump hating Washington Post does:

    Under Trump, gains against ISIS have ‘dramatically accelerated’

    Nearly a third of territory reclaimed from the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria since 2014 has been won in the past six months, due to new policies adopted by the Trump administration, a senior State Department official said Friday.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...eb7d3a2d304_story.html?utm_term=.f2d219370441

    You missed the part where the entire Supreme Court unanimously including its liberal wing laughed frivolous leftist lawsuits and decisions made by rogue judges out of the court. You can split hairs till you are blue in the face but the writing is on the wall, the ban is here to stay, whether Trump gets 100% of what's in it or "mere" 90%.
     
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    George patton and great generals have to bully and bluster to get the troops and other leaders in the army to follow or get out of the way, trump is the president and you and the liberals want him to be a equal =to congress and the democrat senators that want globalism and open borders, so you can run him over and place him in a corner in the school room.
     
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    No we have a " Separation of powers " due to the wise creators of the Constitution in case we have a President of Trumps character......

    The separation of powers provides a system of shared power known as Checks and Balances. Three branches are created in the Constitution. The Legislative, composed of the House and Senate, is set up in Article 1. The Executive, composed of the President, Vice-President, and the Departments, is set up in Article 2.
     
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    Your first response is a non sequiter.

    Besides, few people blamed 9/11 on Bush. So, you claim is false. Of course, we do know that Bush ignored warnings about both Osama Bin Laden and the possibility of airplanes being hijacked. Unfortunately, the Bush team decided to devote considerable political capital and resources trying to conceal these facts.

    Your CNN link on NATO does not document your claim, which is typical of you.

    The repudiation of the Trans Pacific Partnership was a gift to the Chinese, and a reflection of Trump's stupidity on many levels.

    Preventing the TPP was China's top foreign policy goal. Trump gave it to them on a plate, and asked nothing in return. Now China is busy going behind the Americans and negoitating their own multilateral trade deals cutting the Americans out of the world's fastest growing market.

    The travel ban in in court. The travel ban exempts the countries whose citizens have actually conducted terrorist activities against the US. It was nothing more than a play to bigots and xenophobes.

    The approval of the pipeline has not been met with a construction boom. The pipeline is still not under construction.

    Repudiating the Paris Accords only makes the US look weak and backwards. The global march toward alternative energy has passed the deflection point and is now the policy of 98% of the world and the focus of research and investment. The US can get on board or be left behind.

    ISIS was on the ropes before the election, and the strategy for finishing it off was an Obama Adminstration policy. Again, Trump takes credit for not screwing that up.

    Yes, you do get to give credit to the Clown Prince for repudiating the TPP and the Paris Accords.

    Both will set the US back by as much as a decade.
     
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    It's not so much Trump's policies as his persona that is driving people crazy and away from him. Especially independents. Democrats always opposed him, they gave Trump an 10% approval rating at the end of January and give him an 11% today. No change one way or the other among Democrats. Most of these polls have a MOE of plus or minus 3 points or higher.

    But among Republicans Trump has fallen from 90% at the end of January to 75% today and among independents he has fallen from 48% down to 35% today. All based on his persona, Not so much on policies or what he has tried to do. Independents approve of some of his policies, disapprove of others and are pretty evenly divided among the rest. But Trump grates on them, most independents expect a president to act a bit presidential. Not like an obnoxious oaf.
     
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    globalist congress and senators have torn and separated the usa long enough and you and them are hiding behind the Constitution as if your shield open its borders and flood us with refugees from the 3rd world with leftist commie ideas that are destroying the very frame work of the same Constitution that you are waving in my face now:neutral:
     
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    WTF are you talking about, lady?
     
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    LOL, your previous claim that 'Trump has not accomplished anything while in the office" has miraculously transformed into "Trump has done a hell of a lot but the left disagrees with his policies".

    Whose response is a non-sequitur again? :D ;)
     
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    This is not true.

    In fact, the polls accurately predicted the outcome of the presidential election.

    A lot of far right wingers make this claim, although there is almost no evidence to support it.

    It isn't even logical. But it does point to something that is consistant with many Trumpsters.

    Intellectual dishonesty and hypocracy.
     
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    You got me thinking and I decided to compare presidents as to where they started at the end of January in their year of inauguration to where they stood at the end of August the same year.

    Trump Jan 46% Aug 37%
    Obama Jan 67% Aug 50%
    Bush II Jan 57% Aug 55%
    Clinton Jan 58% Aug 44%
    Bush I Jan 51% Aug 69%
    Reagan Jan 51% Aug 60%
    Carter Jan 66% Aug 66%

    What does all that mean, not much I suspect outside some president's have become more popular and some not depending on what was happening during their first year of their presidency. But you can decide.

    But it is interesting that the two with the highest approval rating at the end of August of their first year, Carter and Bush I lost their bid for re-election while the rest went on to win a second term. Trump we don't know yet.
     
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    In a way, I like it. Those representatives and senators are suppose to represent the people of their district and state first! First before their party or president. The Democrats throughout Obama proved their representatives and senators were more interested in representing their party and president then the people who originally elected them. As a result the GOP now has the White House, the senate and the House.

    Perhaps those Republicans who opposed Trump in repeal and replace, perhaps the wall are so doing because the folks back home were against those things and they are putting their folks they represent first as all Representatives and senators should. The Democrats being 100% against these things, probably are once again not representing those folks in their districts and states, just representing their political party.

    Perhaps this is why most Americans think the Democratic Party doesn't stand for anything at all except being the anti-Trump Party. No core values, nothing except anti-Trump.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/page...uestion_18939.xml?uuid=TwsZhmnbEeeUq1sfD_RZ3w
     
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    LOL The world was shocked Trump won period. No matter how much you want to pretend that was expected, you are simply wrong.

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    The polls you attached are nationwide popular vote polls with each poll having a margin of error of at least plus or minus 3 points on average. Most show Clinton winning the popular vote by 3 points, she won by 2 points which was well within the margin of error. In other words, most of those polls were dead on.

    On the electoral college, that is political pundits taking their best estimated guess. The Trafalgar poll had Trump winning Pennsylvania which would had been enough even without Michigan and Wisconsin. Trafalgar also had Clinton and Trump tied in Michigan. Wisconsin wasn't polled the last week of the campaign.

    But even so, you're right. No one expected Trump to win. Of the pundits, Nate Silver gave him a 30% chance of winning and he was laughed or pushed off the stage by most other political pundits. Now here is the electoral map that most pundits were putting out.

    2016 RCP electoral map.png

    It shows Clinton 203, Trump 164 with 171 electoral votes as toss up.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e...s/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
     
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    Then vote them out of office and push to get Term Limits for Congress.

    Illegal Immigration is down thanks to President Obama deporting 2.5 million illegals. Trump has a Long way to go to keep pace.......
     
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    The polls accurately predicted the outcome of the popular vote. All of them were well within the margin of error.

    Which means that the same polls are accurately measuring the man child's unpopularity.
     
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    That isn't what I said. But you do have a tendency to make things up.
     
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    Trump's accomplishments as president or lack of thereof was the topic of the discussion.

    Glad you agree that he has accomplished a lot in the first 7 months, that's all i was saying and no, i don't expect the left to like his policies, this goes without saying.
     
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    4 TO 8 YEARS. Polls are like the stock market and no one except the losers care. We don't impeach according to poll numbers. He'll be there when his term is done. And who won't be there you didn't ask? Clinton, Sanders, Pokeahauntus, Maxine, Nancy and Biden.
     
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    And many of those accomplishments are very popular with traditionally Democrat workers.
     
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    He could never get elected with numbers like that... so rest easy. Clinton will be the president.
     
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    Let me know how they are in November 2020... right after he is re-elected.
     
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    Hmmm don't know much history huh, Reagan fell to 35% then won reelection carrying 49 states.
     
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    Yes, it's in the bag for "Clinton/Bush In 2020!"
    Where can I get my bumper sticker? ;-)
     

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