Turkey and the Kurds

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  1. Iranian Monitor

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    I actually was surprised by what you had quoted initially from Wikipedia, because I know you have some experience and knowledge on this issue. The "D'Arcy Concession" was not granted by the Ottoman Empire nor did it cover Iraq or discovery of oil around Kirkuk and Mosul. That is the point I wanted to be clear about.
     
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    I know its very confusing but Darcy also brought in first wells in Iraq and YES.... he wasn't granted concession by the Ottomans.
     
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    Now we are getting close to what I had wanted to be clear about. In any case, the Iraqi part of the story is actually a lot more complicated, which is why I won't bother even trying to recount it. If someone is interested, they can read the article I posted.
     
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    Thank you for the information.

    How do you mean that it has been "discarded"?

    And what do you mean here, also? (This sounds more like a cheer than like a serious analysis.)
     
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    First oil wells in Iraq date to about 1908 if I remember correctly.
     
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    You are certainly correct as regarding the principle that "two wrongs do not make a right." I have said that many times--in this, and other, political forums.

    But I truly do not agree that it was "wrong" for a Jewish state to exist, following WWII.
     
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    The policy where it was "America only" paying the rest of the world if we hadn't discarded the Paris Accord.
     
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    As The Hill says:

    "China committed to boosting non-fossil fuels to around 20 percent of its overall energy mix by 2030 (a project already underway) and a 'hope' that emissions might peak at that time. As one analyst commented in the New York Times, 'What China is pledging to do here is not a lot different from what China’s policies are on track to deliver.'"

    So why should the US have sacrificed, while the world's greatest polluter--China--is essentially let off the hook?
     
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    No. Why should America pay for the rest of the world's "promise" to use our money to develop technologies that are more eco-friendly?

    America, through the efforts of it's citizens and it's corporations, have reduced our own harmful emissions to a level that the rest of the world is jealous of. The Paris Accord was the world's attempt to make America buy everybody else's eco technologies for them, and of course there was absolutely no oversight to ensure that they used that money for what they "promised" to use it for.

    The Paris Accord was simply nothing more than an effort to redistribute America's wealth.

    If China wants to "look into" reducing it's pollution levels, they don't need to get our money for R&D, they can buy one of the Smog Buster 3000's we've developed like everyone else did. With their own money, thank you very much.

    :)
     

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