U.S. judge blocks enforcement of near-total abortion ban in Texas

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  1. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    What if the mother designates a medical professional to destroy the fetus for her?

    Yes, wishy-washy, poor and illegitimate laws are fairly common.
     
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    A human ? ...as in legally a PERSON?

    Then the woman has every right to kill another PERSON who is harming her without her consent....

    Because no PERSON should be able to harm another without their consent.

    And if I need a heart transplant then I want yours since you seem to think it's OK for one PERSON to use another PERSON'S body to sustain their life..
     
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    Its far more complex than you care to admit.
     
  4. Bluesguy

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    Are you denying the science? The fact is I am the one showing the complexity and the biology and it's the pro-abortion side that deals in simplistic notions.
     
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    Go learn what is and what isn't slavery and then what is killing an unborn baby.
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    No need, lack of rebuttal noted again.
     
  7. Derideo_Te

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    :roflol:

    IRONIC that you have FAILED to heed YOUR own ADVICE on ALL of the above.

    :roflol:
     
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    YOUR failure to provide a COGENT response is YOUR problem, NOT mine!

    :roflol:
     
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  9. FoxHastings

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    People become slaves when their right to bodily autonomy is destroyed...EXACTLY what Anti-Choicers wish to do to women..
     
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    This is what happens when right wingers are in control. The Texas cons have more in common with the Taliban than with the US.
     
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    Go learn what is and what isn't slavery and then what is killing an unborn baby....EXACTLY what the PRO-ABORTION/CHOICERS wish to do to babies.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    People become slaves when their right to bodily autonomy is destroyed...EXACTLY what Anti-Choicers wish to do to women..


    Ok, so you tell me what slavery is ;) ;)

    YES, abortion is killing a fetus exactly what women who don't want to be pregnant do....did you think you discovered some Big Hidden Secret??? LOLOLOL A Big EXPOSE ? LOLOLOL.....too late for the OBVIOUS...
     
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    You're the one invoking it as "slavery" go educate yourself. Slavery is based on ownership, the baby in the womb does not own it's mother.

    Yes abortion is killing the unborn child, the baby in the womb, is exactly what the pro-choice/abortion side wish women to do as you like to put things.

    A fetus is just one stage of a baby's life so when you kill a fetus you kill a baby, a human life, a human being.
     
  15. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    So?

    We kill human beings every day, Every time you turn on a lightswitch or start your car you're putting pollutants into the air that kill some fraction of some human somewhere.

    If it's inside your body it's a ****ing GROWTH. It's a wart, a tumour and it THREATENS YOUR LIFE just like any malignancy. I don't give a Flying Fandango what it looks like. A mandrake root looks nearly the same as a little person. Should there be laws against uprooting one? Like there were in the Middle Ages

    You conservatives do everything you can to steal votes 'doncha. You can't get real registered voters to agree they should be taxed to support you and your rich friends so you make up people that don't exist, ( the unborne, like the undead) and then add them to your fictional constituency.
     
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    And you forcing a woman under threat of law to give her body unwillingly is an act of extreme control — if not outright temporary slavery. That you and your ilk expect her to food the bill for medical treatment and risk lifelong impairment or even death to satisfy your fascist need to control others is absolutely disgusting.

    If you care about the fetus so much push for guaranteed no cost medical treatment for women, push for technology to remove the fetus to an artificial womb or volunteer that wishes to carry it.
     
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    Sucks to be so adamantly for killing the innocent. BTW, the appeals court reversed the judges block.

    I know the pro killing crowd are apoplectic over this.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    People become slaves when their right to bodily autonomy is destroyed...EXACTLY what Anti-Choicers wish to do to women..




    Ok, so you tell me what slavery is ;) ;)

    YES, abortion is killing a fetus exactly what women who don't want to be pregnant do....did you think you discovered some Big Hidden Secret??? LOLOLOL A Big EXPOSE ? LOLOLOL.....too late for the OBVIOUS...


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    NO, YOU brought up slavery...

    Uh, ya, after people LOSE THE RIGHT TO BODILY AUTONOMY THEN THEY CAN BE BOUGHT.

    No, it doesn't...wtf does that have to do with anything????



    NO, I do NOT want them to do that, I want them to have the same rights everyone else has and be able to CHOOSE what they want to do.


    Nope, not A human being...it's human(adjective) but not A human being as in "born person with rights."


    Have you given a fetus a SSN yet ? :)
     
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    ....and they could ADOPT 10 or 12 of these "precious lives"....but they DON'T
     
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    Slavery is about ownership before and after. And I have shown you repeated a human being is a human being starting at conception, you have provided NOTHING to show different except bolded words which do not refute the science.
     
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    It's really ironic to hear the first ones who cream their jeans whenever they hear about how American "shock and awe" are explosively dismembering whole families and how we should torture the children of our enemies while whole apartment blocks of civilians are turned in to collateral damage consisting of raw guts on concrete walls then tearing up about innocent spoonfuls of meiotic cells just so long as those innocents are in somebody else's womb. The whole unborn "life" bullshit is pure smoke and mirrors and you're not fooling anyone with it anymore
     
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    You appear to be the one that equates the two together and doesn’t care.
     
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    I don't care about unwanted growths in other's bodies, no. I care about actual people who have been born for some time and then were killed by American instruments of mass destruction. It seems that the ones proudest of these instruments and most likely to promote their use are also the ones most likely to oppose a woman's right to eliminate something that isn't even human and is growing inside her. This seems madness at first but then you see how it is used to oppress women and its real purpose becomes clear.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    People become slaves when their right to bodily autonomy is destroyed...EXACTLY what Anti-Choicers wish to do to women..

    Ok, so you tell me what slavery is ;) ;)

    YES, abortion is killing a fetus exactly what women who don't want to be pregnant do....did you think you discovered some Big Hidden Secret??? LOLOLOL A Big EXPOSE ? LOLOLOL.....too late for the OBVIOUS...


    .



    NO, YOU brought up slavery...



    Uh, ya, after people LOSE THE RIGHT TO BODILY AUTONOMY THEN THEY CAN BE BOUGHT.



    No, it doesn't...wtf does that have to do with anything????





    NO, I do NOT want them to do that, I want them to have the same rights everyone else has and be able to CHOOSE what they want to do.




    Nope, not A human being...it's human(adjective) but not A human being as in "born person with rights."


    Have you given a fetus a SSN yet ? :)

    Uh, ya, after people LOSE THE RIGHT TO BODILY AUTONOMY THEN THEY CAN BE BOUGHT.


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    How ?

    When ?


    Where? besides in your own mind....

    HOW DOES A ZEF GET A SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER IF IT IS A HUMAN BEING AS IN LEGAL PERSON ?

    AND why can't you answer that question ???


    And you refuse to acknowledge that science does not make laws.....what an insane idea!!


    AND you refuse to acknowledge that IF a fetus has rights it also has restrictions and I will make these words big in the hope that someday you may read them:

    IF a ZEF is a human being with rights, it ALSO HAS RESTRICTIONS LIKE WE ALL DO..

    It cannot harm another without their consent.
    It cannot use another's body to sustain it's life, NO ONE CAN.


    So if it's doing these things without the woman's consent...OUT IT COMES !!!!!!

    And it doesn't matter if you call it a "person" a giraffe a Princess, a BUN, a baby ....OUT IT COMES
     
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    Xiden says you can't work. Xiden says you can't travel. Xiden says you won't be a member of society. Lots of expressed consequences, like no longer being able to live/work/travel/ etc. Is that really what you want?
     

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