U.S. Senate approves bill to make daylight saving time permanent

Finally!

U.S. Senate approves bill to make daylight saving time permanent
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us...light-savings-time-permanent-2023-2022-03-15/
WASHINGTON, March 15 (Reuters) - The U.S. Senate on Tuesday passed legislation that would make daylight saving time permanent starting in 2023, ending the twice-annual changing of clocks in a move promoted by supporters advocating brighter afternoons and more economic activity.

 

Famously when daylight savings was introduced here the more southern Australian states adopted it but Queensland, which is mostly tropical and subtropical did not. At the time we had a Trump like leader called Joh Bjelke-Petersen - it was claimed he was against it because he thought the sun shone out of his own backside and he was not getting up an hour earlier each day for anyone!

 

So doesn't that mean it won't get light out till 8am in the winter? Imo that's a bit much. I personally would rather the other way around if it were to be no changes every year. Sunrise at 4am in the summer wouldn't be bad. Plenty of time to do things before the common work starting time. I'd rather that than sunset at 9pm in the summer and sunrise at 8am in the winter.

 

Personally I don't care then the sun comes up as long as I have more light in the afternoons. When we are in summer time, I can hit the golf course at 3PM and still finish 18 holes. Even now in March, we have sunlight until 7:30 while in summer time. What I do not like it sun going down at 5:30PM in the winter.

 

As my international friends would say, America is wierd. But hey, it's another win for bipartisanship. Right?

 

Hawaii doesn't change for daylight savings time, either. But, if this bill becomes law, I guess they would have to permanently set their clocks an hour earlier-- unless they're given an exemption.

 

That won't be the case. The bill is not changing which states do or don't do Daylight Savings Time. It just makes it permenant. The Bill states, "The standard time for a State that has exempted itself from the provisions of section 3(a) of the Uniform Time Act of 1966 (15 U.S.C. 260a(a)), as in effect on the day before the date of the enactment of the Sunshine Protection Act of 2021, pursuant to such section, or an area of a State that has exempted such area from such provisions pursuant to such section, shall be, as such State considers appropriate—" In other words, the bill would not change any state that is presently exempted from the Daylight Savings Time.

The history of Daylight Saving Time has been around. But in 2005, the Energy Policy Act extended the Daylight Savings Time. The current structure was set to expire, which is why the Act of necessary to make it permenant.

 

I agree completely with your bolded line, but for the opposite reason. I am a night owl. I have trouble enough getting myself going "early." I always dread DST, because it just exacerbates my problem of insufficient overlapping time between my waking hours and business hours. I always greet the return of standard time with a sigh of relief. But perpetual Daylight Savings-- I hope it doesn't get through the House!

 

An indian chief said this was typical white man's thinking. "Cut blanket off at bottom and sew it back on top. Think you have longer blanket"

As in so many other silly things we are approaching being alone in the world having two time practices.

 

SIAP. The reason why daylight standard time was invented (by Ben Franklin, BTW) was to give light to school children as they went to school in the AM. I guess, you're for more accidents of school children in the AM caused by darkness as they go to school in the winter??

 

More accidents? No, please don't put words in my mouth. Can you provide the accident stats between States who did away with the savings time vs those who still have it.

 

It's dark at 8:30AM, here, in winter which is the same time kids go out of their houses and walk to the school bus stop on the street.

 

Don't you think Hawaii would adhere to standard time no matter what the federal thinks??
Arizona is another state which adheres strictly to standard time.

 

Why do you hate street lights and the people who make and maintain them?

That's almost as silly as that straw man you threw at proline isn't it?

One thing to consider, when you work third shifts like I do you have to work a 9 hour shift once a year but then you have to work a 7 hour shift once.

 

Isn't nice to gave technology like streetlights to give them light and traffic lights to control the flow of traffic. We have come a long way in 100+ years.

And then again, it was not created for the kids, it was done to conserve energy among few other reasons

 

Well, Ben Franklin, the guy who invented daylight savings time, did it to give sunlight to kids as they went to school in the AM.

 

OK, look, Ben Franklin didn't invent daylight savings time. He did write some satire on the subject, though.

 

Marco Rubio wrote some satire too arguing his bill will keep us from getting fat. Well, he was serious, but it sounds like satire.

 

makes me want to break out in song

 

Oh that's FUNNY! We all misinterpreted "permanent," to mean year-round. All that dread, for naught. It's also kind of funny that I bet a lot of others, like me, had come to think of DST as just a part of life, and didn't consider that it might be something that was only set in law, for a limited period of time. But after this bill becomes law, the sleep- eating dragon, becomes immortal.

 

You don’t need “daylight savings” what you need is flexible working hours

 

I didn't know that. That's one more point, in my book, for Arizona.

The kids here, go out much earlier, but they don't stand up at the stop, alone. Either their mom stands with them, or they sit in her car. The bus used to come right to their door. Times have changed.

Kids generally don't walk great distances, any more, I don't think. So most would live right by the school. IOW, the vehicle most likely to hit them, would be a school bus.

 

@Alwayssa

I misunderstood you, and got false hope; I thought you were simply saying that they were extending DST indefinitely, because it was due to expire. But, unless Reuters got it wrong, too, it is going to be DST all year long.

 

Putting the clock forward once and never doing it again isn't so bad. To me, it's not about the daylight outside but the transition. It's always so rough after losing that hour every year. Gaining an hour in the fall doesn't make up for it at all. I'm an extreme non-morning person so that may be why, though I have heard losing that hour puts people over the edge and kills some every year. Another source of stress.

 

I read the Reuters Article, it was poorly written English about the bill. I read the bill, and all it does is the new dates, the 1st weekend in November and the 1st weekend in March will be permenant. This is what the Energy Policy Act of 2005 did by changing the dates from the previous time, the first weekend of April and the last weekend of October; and those dates would have expired. The previous dates has been around since 1965 or so under another act that I cannot think of the name.