U.S. spy drone downed in Iran

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  1. Gilos

    Gilos Well-Known Member

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    They cant bomb Iran without creating a war, they should have made a self destructe mechanism IMO, perhaps there is somthing similar, i read today a US army official said they wont get out much of it as they hope, maybe some things are protected.
     
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    I am sure the average Iranian would welcome the opportunity to enjoy the the kind of terrorism that the Iraqis now experience:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_bombings_in_Iraq_since_2003
     
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    So, you're saying that the Iranians and Russians caused our drone to fly out of Afghanistan and land in Iran??

    I doubt that they did more than recover the drone after it malfunctioned and landed on its own. Most likely in Afghanistan and handed over to Iran.

    What incriminating data do you think the drone will reveal? In your opinion any data in the drone now was put there by the Iranian/Russian technicians, RIGHT?? They took control of our drone and caused it to strafe schools in Iran, drop bombs, buzz goats in the field, etc.

    Nothing in the drone's data base is our fault. Too bad.
     
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    Why spy with a drone when you already do a better job with spy satellite?

    Drones are perfect at scouting and striking at target of opportunity, but for serious spying the satellite is king. Nobody knows who or what is looking at you from space. And shooting one down, while possible, is quite evident and would be considered an act of aggression.
     
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    Not sure about that. Spying with satellite faces huge problems with being too dependent on weather and some natural atmospheric effects. Drones are free from these problems. Moreover, it can't help with on-line spying. Data/photos transfer from satellite to ground control center takes a lot.
     
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    Then why were they claiming they shot it down? This story is very peculiar indeed.

    Yeah, if this truly happened then...hey look a pig just flew by.
     
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    Only if you need photographic evidence. Bad weather or atmospheric effects doesn't have the same impact on IR or radar or other more advance scanning technologies.

    And drones won't fly in rough weather, the satellite is unaffected by that.

    Between spy satellites and boots on the ground, you have pretty much the best solution for spying.
     
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    Uh, nope. The act of aggression is the trespassing of the drone into the air space of a sovereign nation.
     
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    I was talking about satellite...
     
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    Ok, apologies.
     
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    No problem...
     
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    Question - Let's assume that this Russian made Avtobaza caused the downing of the US spy drone plane. Are the electronics still intact? Is this essentially a non nuclear electromagnetic pulse weapon with extraordinary range?
     
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    That may sound funny but its a diplomacy move, US tries to get Iran to respond rather than let it fade away, Iran response will either further escalate the releations or freeze them
     
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    Or remind people that the drone was violating a sovereign nations airspace.


    Ooops
     
  17. Gilos

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    That's not the official US stand and not how they sell it to their public, Iran response could excuse a US action
     
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    They didnt get the drone from UPS. Obama admin can lie as much as they want.....
     
  19. Gilos

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    You only need to lie to your own ppl to wage a war, i wonder were this is going to
     
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    Sorry we are not going to invade Iran for you. Going to have to do your own dirty work.:omg:
     
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    Invading Iran would be the worse thing anyone can do, sorry, i'm not the evil mastermind you thought i was :omg:
     
  22. moon

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    Drone ? We refer the enquirer to the US of AIPAC statement that they haven't lost one.
     
  23. Gilos

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    Huh?, Obama just asked it back
     
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    So then, in which instance are the US military lying, the first or the second ?
     
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    Iran is driving a hard bargain for granting access to the US stealth drone RQ-170 it captured undamaged last week, as Russian and Chinese military intelligence teams arriving in Tehran for a look at the secret aircraft soon found. debkafile's Moscow sources disclose that the price set by Revolutionary Guards commander Gen. Ali Jaafari includes advanced nuclear and missile technology, especially systems using solid fuel, the last word on centrifuges for enriching uranium and the S-300PMU-1 air defense system, which Moscow has consistently refused to sell Tehran.
    This super-weapon is effective against stealth warplanes and cruise missiles and therefore capable of seriously impairing any large-scale US or Israeli air or missile attacks on Iran's nuclear sites.
    Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu sent Russian-speaking Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman to Moscow on Dec. 7 to try and dissuade Prime Minister Vladimir Putin from letting Iran have the S-300 batteries as payment for access to the captured US drone.
    Sources in Washington report that before sending Lieberman to Moscow, Netanyahu first checked with the White House at the highest levels.
    Although he had his hands full with stormy demonstrations in Moscow protesting alleged election fraud, Putin received Lieberman at the Kremlin. But the interview was short. The Russian prime minister refused to discuss the episode with his Israeli guest or even confirm that Moscow was engaged in any deal with Tehran.
    In answer to reporters' questions, Lieberman commented: "Russia's positions on the Middle East were not helpful."
    American efforts to reach President Dmitry Medvedev and Putin on the drone deal through other channels were likewise rebuffed.
    source
     

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