U.S. spy drone downed in Iran

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  1. Gilos

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    emmmmmm.....

    The first! the first! i'll take the first!!!
     
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    As so often , you Yanks disappear up one narrow alley without at least considering all possibilities .
    We all know that NATO spokesman clearly claimed that control was lost of the US UAV and it went missing, a common occurrence for these unmanned aircraft.

    But the enigmas surrounding its capture continue to pile up.
    How did Iran know the drone had entered its airspace?
    How was it caused to land?
    Most of all, why did the craft's self-destruct mechanism which is programmed to activate automatically fail to work?
    And if it malfunctioned, why was it not activated by remote control?

    Who says it is not an elaborate ruse to fool Iran and Russia ( !!) for when the real drone attacks occur ?

    As a profiler , this scenario has strange features which raise the reasonable possibility of matters not being what you first imagine .Also , no Special Services , Seek and Destroy mission seems to have been considered .
    Why , if the loss was catastrophic in terms if intelligence leaks ?
     
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    Seems like it has no self destruct.

    Iran obviously brought it down and if it has that technology then it can sell it, and if it can easily bring down US drones then the US isn't going to be able to sell many abroad are they now.

    Bravo Iran I say.

     
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  6. Gilos

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    The west finally learned how to fight terrorists in the 21st centuary, pay them with the same coin, hurts doesnt it...
     
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    For someone who would rather trade with countries then blow them up... Yes.
     
  8. Gilos

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    suck it up, your peceful life comes with a price
     
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    So we need to become what we are fighting to give the illusion of peace?
     
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    Its a new world with new warfare, ppl dont send tanks anymore, its all public opinion and internal presure, we didnt invent it we try survive
     
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    Constant state of war = Peace.

    Got you. Go read 1984 you might learn something.
     
  12. Gilos

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    Didnt say that, but in times of conflict/war you target an objective and fight to obtain it, fairness comes second,

    Or you can switch to solar power and leave this sick area.....
     
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    Your attempts at rational discussion have been wrecked on the rocks on Zionism, Gilos. I'd say that you've come to realize that the problem is you.
     
  14. Gilos

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    LOL, how so?
    You support bombing of busses and resturants with clear intent to kill entire families and you dare wear the liberal mask, lol, the west fights your scumbag ppl with the same weapons they created only they dont bomb markets full of ppl, only strategic places, you can debate it but that's what's going on, enjoy the show :mrgreen:
     
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    and do you have evidence of this, or is it just your opinion that anyone who criticises Israel is a terrorist supporter?
     
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    Possibly, or it didn't function or it was able to be overridden by the Iranians or maybe it is so advanced its got consciencenous and refused to commit suicide!

    Certainly looks as though Iran brought it down but that should be reasonably easilly rectified shouldn't it, just a bit of reprogramming? I mean if Iran has such a capability of interfering with communication in the ether that nothing is safe then I can think of some much more interesting uses, for example transferring trillions of dollars around! Sure it can sell it but I doubt there'd be any buyers now its known.

    Most likely is that its a combination of error on the part of the drone/USA and capability on the Iranian side. Whatever important lessons will be learned, systems improved and the high tech leaders will remain ahead.
     
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    Video of the US RQ-170 Sentinel Spy Plane Landing in Iran

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97Mw9owPsv4&list=UUt6QM5IdfsgleNa1Y6WYK1g&feature=plcp"]Video of the US RQ-170 Sentinel Spy Plane Landing in Iran - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Maybe this story few months ago could shed some light on
    Iran's effort to control US Drones.

    Military Tech - SCITECH
    U.S. Military Drones Infected With Mysterious Computer Virus

    By Perry Chiaramonte

    Published October 07, 2011

    | FoxNews.com

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    Creech AFB predator pilots

    U.S. Air Force / Senior Airman Nadine Y. Barclay

    Airman 1st Class Caleb Force assists 1st Lt. Jorden Smith, a MQ-1B Predator pilot, in locating simulated targets during a training mission conducted inside the simulators at Creech Air Force Base, Nev.

    A fleet of U.S. military drones on a Nevada Air Force base has been infected by a keylogger virus that tracks every key and button their pilots press, Wired.com reported Friday -- and top Air Force sources strongly contested.

    The virus was first noticed by officials at Creech Air Force Base nearly two weeks ago using the base's security system. It logged every keystroke of the pilots in the control room on the base as they remotely flew Predator and Reaper drones on missions over Afghanistan and other battle zones.

    There has been no confirmation of information being lost or sent to an outside source, but the virus has been resistant to military efforts to clear it from the system.

    "We keep wiping it off, and it keeps coming back," a source told Wired.

    It's not immediately clear whether the virus hit the system intentionally or by accident. But the existence of ordinary-seeming computer viruses on what should be the most extraordinarily secure of military systems is far from shocking, said Anup Ghosh, a former scientist with the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) and chief scientist with security company Invincea.

    They're just computers, after all.

    "[The drones] are controlled by standard PCs," Ghosh told FoxNews.com. "None of this should be surprising." The system should be replaced or "re-imaged" with a virus-free, bit-for-bit copy of the data on the drive in order to get rid of the infection, he said..

    "If they are connected to a larger network they will be infected again," he said.

    A senior Air Force source with knowledge of the drone program and familiar with the virus that was caught in recent weeks told FoxNews.com that Wired's story is "blown out of proportion" and "vastly overwritten."

    "The planes were never in any jeopardy of 'going stupid'," the source said, and the virus "is not affecting operations in any way ... it showed up on a Microsoft-based Windows system. We have a closed-loop system and heavily protected cockpits -- the planes were never in jeopardy."

    The virus was introduced when the Air Force was transferring data maps between systems using external hard drives, he said. Very quickly the Air Force protective network tracked the virus.

    "The system worked," the Air Force official said.

    In the last 12 hours the Air Force ran some clearing software to make sure the viral agents weren't lying dormant in the system. They found some non-descript viral agents at what was described as a "third- or fourth-level function" and dealt with them.

    The U.S. military has increasingly been relying upon drones to conduct surveillance and air strikes on enemy targets. The Air force currently uses 150 MQ1 Predator drones and 50 MQ9 Reaper drones over Afghanistan and Iraq.

    Drone planes similar to the ones infected were recently used in a CIA-directed strike against American-born terrorist Anwar al-Awlaki in Yemen on September 30.

    This is not the first time that U.S. drones have been infected. In 2009, U.S. troops discovered drone footage on the laptops of Iraqi insurgents. The insurgents had stolen the video with easy to access software that cost $26, Wired reported.

    In the fall of 2008, a cyberworm inched its way through military networks as well. The effort to erase it was dubbed Operation Buckshot Yankee.

    "It may have to be determined if this new threat was an original attack or a residual from Buckshot Yankee," Ghosh told FoxNews.com.

    Representatives from both Creech Air Force Base and General Atomics Aeronautical Systems, the maker of the predator and Reaper drones, declined to comment.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...#ixzz1gFBTfNCU
     
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    That does sound strange, but I never saw a virus like this in my systems and it would be nearly impossible for someone to upload it to my systems unless they manually did it.
     
  21. moon

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    ' Nearly '. ' Unless '. Cracks in the arrogance.
     
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    I'm saying they would have to have insider information, plus we don't upload anything to our stuff wirelessly, it is done manually so they would have to have access to these aircraft while they were on the ground to upload a virus.
     
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    Welcome to my ignore list. You obviously bring nothing to the table with such rants. :bored:
     
  24. moon

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    Aw, c'mon, ol' Albert uses random response software. :mrgreen:
     

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