Discussion in '9/11' started by 7forever, Dec 1, 2011.
But your video depicts it coming from the south. How do you reconcile that with your statement?
Personal attacks don't make the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) in your claims smell any better. Nothing came from the west. Try again.
The plane was not flown by poorly trained Arabs on a mission from Osama bin Laden because they hate our freedoms.
Quotes from Flight Instructors:
Mohammed Atta: His attention span was zero.
Khalid Al-Mihdhar: We didnt kick him out, but he didnt live up to our standards.
Marwan Al-Shehhi: He was dropped because of his limited English and incompetence at the controls.
Salem Al-Hazmi: We advised him to quit after two lessons.
Hani Hanjour: His English was horrible, and his mechanical skills were even worse. It was like he had hardly even ever driven a car. Im still to this day amazed that he could have flown into the Pentagon. He could not fly at all.
Personal attacks don't make the bull dung in your claims smell any better. Nothing came from the south. You will lie again.
Childish tactics don't make the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) in your posts smell any better either. Can't come up with anything better? I am not surprised.
Opinions are not evidence. BTW, you listed five people. You ARE aware there were only four planes, right?
Your lies are not evidence. BTW, west in not south.
Childish tactics don't make west south. I know you Can't come up with anything better and ain't surprised.
What I say doesn't matter. The videos you post plus all the other evidence proves the plane came in from the South.
You do realize trolling like that is against the TOS, right? Hate to see you get reported just because you couldn't come up with a valid response.
Yes...get them kicked out...when insults, redirection, and smokescreens don't work.
Where did I say I was going to report him? Did I report him? No. Once again you make baseless accusations because you have no way to debate the topic.
It's definitely a smoking gun if enough people want to acknowledge that it wasn't a plane or chopper. Watch the northeast corner as it illuminates during ignition. Bombs were triggered in the opposite direction of impact and created explosions along the east side and lastly to the drone's impact area on the southeast corner. The drone was used as an ignition device and to have something in the area moving toward the buildings even though it wasn't a real plane. It was at least something people could eyewitness and call a small plane or remote controlled drone like Dick Oliver had.
Whenever the no plane truth comes up, the first question that pops into my mind is, how did the 65 passengers on flight 175 fit into an orb that was 3-5 feet wide?
Sock puppet accounts also don't work and are most definitely against the TOS. Just ask your buddy "suede", pbuh.
You know, for a subject you consider the folks who believe differently than you, inconsequential, you sure do spend a boatload of time bickering with them. On one hand you claim nobody pays any attention to them, the movement is dead, etc., conversely you focus a lot of attention on these folks. Seems to me, that if the whole matter is inconsequential, dead, and crazy, you are wasting a lot of time arguing with these "idiots" yourself. Why pay any attention to them, or care at all what it is they believe? Their numbers are so miniscule and their cause so obviously crazy, hey, why lend them any credibility by giving them any attention at all?
If somebody came in here and proclaimed whatever "crazy" theory they wanted, I don't think it would bother me enough to warrant any response. It must bother you to some degree given the amount of time you dedicate to your apparent cause here. Free and open discussion shouldn't bother you at all, nor should the "kooks" that you rail against repeatedly. It seems to me, that there is something about this whole matter that makes you uncomfortable to some degree. Your whole "it's disrespectful to the victims" attitude is very noble and all, but strikes me as somewhat insincere. THAT is my opinion. I don't understand all the fuss you guys kick up about a bunch of crazy truthers and what it is they believe.
The rest of normal humanity can watch anywhere between 46 and several hundred amateur videos of fake blobs flying into the south tower and trust the power of reality and common sense.
But let's examine what you believe: "Everything on TV is real". You cannot trust all visual images to conclude that a image is real, not fake. Eyewitness testimony is real and supported something, not a plane circling the south tower.
Firstly, you have yet to explain how obviously faked videos are somehow real when they are laughable on every level. YOU NOR ANYONE can prove a negative. Why is it that out of so many honest people shooting the events on that day, that none of them uploaded a video that depicted a real boeing 767? Explain that. And explain how an orb coming from the west could be flight 175 when it was about 3-5 feet? Eyewitness testimony has put more innocent people behind bars than any other type of evidence. If enough people report seeing the same thing that is corroborated by video, there is no room for debate. Witnessses saw the orb cirlce around and called it a small plane, drone, and some laughed at it. NO PERSON SAW A REAL PLANE HIT EITHER TOWER ON 911. Millions of people saw fake plane images on TV.
Furthermore, eyewitness testimony is a legitimate source of evidence if other evidence can corroborate it. The orb cirlced around and nothing else can withstand scrutiny. You don't question fiction itself. Operating from such a basis, you have no reason to question anything, not even your fake media sources. You know now that your tv sources were fabricated. You can be sure that the 'evidence' provided by government and the media was incorrect because it was visibly fake. Your willingness to trust false INFORMATION is exposed. Your ability to DENY is all you got. Your ability accept fiction over fact is your crutch. At the end of the day, you'll find that you've totally rejected reality to suit the outlandish notion that real planes flew into the World Trade Center Towers. It's not worth accepting fiction because it's politically incorrect.
In case any of you were wondering: No person or group can prove that real planes impacted either tower because no photographic or video evidence of REAL planes doing so exists.
this is an outright lie I watched hundreds of pictures of the plane coming over the wire at the newspaper
It is a lie and he knows it is a lie. He chooses to ignore the eyewitness survivors who saw plane parts up close and personal in the south tower when it crashed into the tower. He chooses to ignore all the evidence of plane parts that went completely through the buildings onto the buildings and streets below. Apparently he thinks someone was on top of the towers with a catapult to launch this evidence off the towers! Regardless, his choosing to ignore the evidence only further destroys his pathetic case. Ever wonder why nobody comes here trying to defend the crap 7forever tries to pass off as reality?
Eyewitness testimony is the most unreliable evidence and has put more innocent people behind bars than any other. I already explained it many times and posted the clips. The fake plane images from the west circled the towers which is impossible for a real airplane, and the official flight path had fake 175 flying over the bay in the final 14 seconds. The orb passed east of the north tower in the final few seconds which is why the shadow was cast. Flight 175 could not have left a shadow logically or officially, therefore the official myth of planes is in doubt for that fact and many others. The shadow is so distinct because the orb literally moved in between the towers, turning right and finally left across the rear of tower 2.
Why? To see you run away from the debate as soon as it is obvious to everyone you're claims are pure crap? One doesn't need a pair to debate the likes of you. All one needs is a lot of patience and the ability to point out your lies and logical falacies.
How about you grow a pair and stick through a debate instead of running away? Would you like me to point out where I answered a specific question YOU asked, yet you ran away from it while trying to use the excuse it was off topic? That one still cracks me up and is a prime example of the tactics truthers use to avoid facing the truth that they are lying, they know they are lying and are doing nothing but pushing bull(*)(*)(*)(*) agendas.
I'm not the one crying shill anytime he gets questioned 'Fraud.
I'll stick to any topic any time, AND I won't moan and complain if someone questions something I've posted. In fact, I've not once started a disingenuous topic here that used incorrect information as its basis. Can you say the same?
No you won't. You can't go three sentences without tossing out insults. 75% of your posts consist of derogatory remarks in one form or another. It's part of the disinformation campaign I know...no need to explain. I understand the bullet points very well.
You nearly made it to 4 sentences. Personal best?
"And then heard this noise that seemed to come from everywhere but didn't...had no idea what it was and then the south tower just exploded, it just it just, it just blew up. And somebody said that was a plane and I was like, "I was underneath it, I was looking at the tower, I had my camera in my hand, I heard the noise, I never saw the airplane."
David, did not hear or see an approaching plane and did not photograph one. He would have heard the roaring engines and plane coming in at over 500 mph. NO REAL PLANE HIT THE SOUTH TOWER.
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