Uh oh

It's called analogy. You are free to give one of your own. Here, let me help you understand what it is:

a·nal·o·gy əˈnaləjē/ noun
a comparison between two things, typically for the purpose of explanation or clarification.


Or am I wrong and you just want to make snippy remarks because you know it's an analogy but you disagree with the truism?

 

I give analogies often. They are never dog whistles however

 

Neither are mine. Are you denying that Chicago is violent and has many gang-bangers killing each other? Here, again, let me help educate you to reality:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...ence-first-six-months-met-20170630-story.html
...At the year's midpoint, 323 people have died in Chicago violence — one more homicide than a year earlier. With the bulk of the summer still ahead, the city is on course at that pace to top 700 homicides for a second consecutive year, a mark that had otherwise not been reached in two decades....

....Though far from ranking as the nation's murder capital on a per-capita basis, Chicago continues to be the runaway leader in sheer volume of killings and shootings. Chicago had 50 more homicides than New York and Los Angeles combined through mid-June, even though it is far less populous than both.



.....Experts say a complex mix of factors drives the violence. Much of the bloodshed can be linked to gang conflicts over everything from petty disputes to control of drug dealing, as well as the splintering of gangs into smaller cliques fighting over a few blocks at a time.

 

Well if you want to be considered moderate (which does appear to be your desire)...you really ought to lose the dog whistle nonsense.

But hey...you would be one of the few if ya did.

 

True, but there's a difference between "don't harm or steal from anyone" and "Give me all of your money or go to jail".

Which conditions do you think are reasonable?

 

That meme is getting old even though the numbers can be shaped to give it truth.

The fact remains a Republican Congress produced a bill that increases the deficit and Trump signed it. Do you agree this was wrong?

 

Agreed. That isn't why "We, the People" formed the Federal government despite how many LW authoritarians believe it to be true.

The Constitution:
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.


The Declaration of Independence:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

 

Yes, at least from a majority of "We, the people". See the quotes from the Constitution and Declaration of Independence noted above.

 

Good point. Note that both sides are hypocrites who abuse their power and whittle the Middle Class down a little bit more each day.

 

My point. . . . Key words are "we" and "I".

 

I don't like increasing the deficit. But, while you are blaming it on Trump, remember a few things:
1. Obama DOUBLED the national debt in 8 years.
2. Congress actually sets the final budget, they have a responsibility as well as the ability to control spending.
3. Debt, properly used- can be a beneficial thing. I'm not saying it will be, I don't know the details. From a businessman's point of view I know how to make money with borrowed
money, provided the conditions are right. ( I doubt they are in the federal budget)

Then... you have the people. IF you are going to meet the need of a good national plan, but still want to cut the budget- you have to ask people to tighten their belts.... pay more, use less. Try selling that to the public we have these days, and you would get run out of town on a rail- if you were lucky.

We vote for benefits, free stuff- and someone else to pay for it. The free lunch is always a voter favorite.

 

That's funny stuff even from a lefty The moron had a 1.6% GDP because he was forced to curb spending, that should tell you everything you'd ever need to know about his taxpayer funded illusion LMFAO

 

Certainly before the election there will be a million people march on the Capital chanting "What do we want? MORE TAXES! When do we want it? NOW!"

 

2009 was a Bush/GOP budget Obama's budget didn't kick in until October 2009. Bush's 2009 budget was our first trillion dollar deficit. Which Obama inherited.
2010-2012 was the largest global economic crash since 1929. Government receipts went through the floor.

 

In addition, we might as well rename Obamacare Trumpcare. He will be held accountable for whatever happens to insurance costs since he played around with that mandate.

 

Maybe he is very very rich or has a terminal diagnosis. Or maybe he intends to live off his kids, and drag them down into poverty. His pride can be their fall.

 

"Of those who have been given much, much is expected." . . . . Or of those who TAKE much.

"All of your money" comes MUCH closer to the demands placed on the middle and lower classes than what is required from the ultra-wealthy.

 

Agreed there is a problem, but extremists accusing other extremists of hypocrisy or error is more hilarious than it is honorable.

 

Okey Dokey. So what is your point again?

 

Sorry, but I truncate any post that starts out with a lie or a distortion of what I posted. I'm not blaming just Trump. Read my post again:

Don't think I didn't notice you refused to answer the question in favor of misconstruing what I posted.

 

Oh give it rest we've been Running up deficits almost non stop since WWII, Every president has had worse deficits than the one before him Only the Gingrich coalition managed to change that. Democrats shedding Crocodile tears over the supposed Trump Deficit which hasn't yet materialized and citing the most immculately wrong CBO numbers as proof is like watching the kid with chocolate all over his face and the enpty wrapper stuck to his fingers complaining that some one stole his candy bar....

 

Well stop with the hypocrisy on deficit spending then, because it proves you guys only care about the deficit when a democrat is president.

 

While you are correct about running up debt, it's a matter of percentage of debt compared to GDP. Most families have debt such as a house mortgage and a car loan, maybe an education load. Aside from those, people start to differ. Some save up for large screen TVs, a swimming pool, etc. Others tap their credit cards and end up with a huge amount of debt. Debt so big they can only afford to pay the interest and not the principle.

The US is becoming the latter example.

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt-to-gdp
The United States recorded a government debt equivalent to 105.40 percent of the country's Gross Domestic Product in 2017. Government Debt to GDP in the United States averaged 61.70 percent from 1940 until 2017, reaching an all time high of 118.90 percent in 1946 and a record low of 31.70 percent in 1981.

 

This is so hard to wrap one's head around.

So to conservatives does the debt/deficit matter? And does it change from day to day..

 

It doesn't matter to political extremists. It does matter to me. Passing the buck to our grandchildren is wrong.