UK: Hospitals to Deny Care to “Racist” or “Homophobic” Patients

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  1. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I said I was sorry for confusing you with another poster with similar posting history.
    The evidence is your post history — that anyone can view. You are fooling only yourself.

    It is literally what the OP that you posted is discussing.
    Refusals based on irrelevant characteristics. You did read it, yes?
     
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    what are you talking about? are you upset because I agree a woman should be able to pick a female doctor for an examination of her private parts?

    if this was an emergency surgery, and they refused a doctor, they need to wait in line for another to come available - as for 100% refusing them, no, I do not agree they should be refused, now maybe sedated if they are assaulting staff or other patients

    it sounds like you so far in one direction, you're not even listening to what people say, only what you want to hear them say so you can disagree and act outraged

    we have no idea a patents reasons, maybe they are a rape victim, have a fear of men, no one knows
     
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    Seems to me that if your taxes pay for it, then you have not only a right to it, but a say in how and by whom it's administered (within reason). So this idea that you don't, and that if you think you do, is somehow criminal, is to make a crime of reason and personal values. That said, if a racist would rather die than be tended by someone of another race, then let them die, I suppose. That is unless a compatible person can be found to tend to them. And if someone is unruly for any reason, give them a sedative to shut them up. Wouldn't that be a solution in any system?
     
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    Customer service is mostly about accepting abuse from people and doing everything you can for them anyway. Get over yourself you're not that important.
    Quality people accept the abuse and do their best anyway. Bad quality people don't, they are the ones you fire.
     
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    I don't think I could have said a better myself if I tried. I completely agree with what you said and we're starting to Push discrimination into feelings and that's not a good thing. Those pushing these agendas are discriminating themselves.
     
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    And my point remains that nobody is going to face a fine for only misusing a pronoun once. Legally, and certainly practically, it is going to take much more than a simple occurrence to get to the point of legal action. It would either need to be repeated even after guidance and advice or wilfully malicious.

    I don't believe free speech is unconditional and speech which can be harmful, especially intentionally harmful would be a perfect example of a valid condition. The difficult question is where we draw the line on potentially harmful.
     
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    Sums it up pretty well.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Conservative is subjective.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ah, and the true agenda of the left shows its face.

    The constant desire for a strong centralized government controlling everything from education the healthcare is desired in order to impose political ideology among the masses. Constitution and rights be damned.

    Newsflash, it isnt actually illegal to be a racist, homophobe, anti-LGBT, atheist, or hate millenials. These are called rights.

    The authoritarian desires you advocate for are truly alarming. You learned nothing from history. Nothing.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If some dumbass walks into a hospital and sarcastically says "that's gay", they could be denied service.

    The subjective political correctness advocated by the progressives is reminiscent of an authoritarian government that often digress into abuse.

    I hope and believe the progressive left will get absolutely trampled this election. Good, it should be an indicator.
     
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    From having their feelings hurt. No.
     
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    I wish I spoke for the left, the antics of right wouldn’t be tolerated if i did.

    Correct, but when you start denying them services you begin imposing on their rights.

    Your bs fearmongering aside — I believe all Americans should be treated equally, but as long as one group constantly pushes to revoke the rights of others I fully support tit-for-tat. When the bigots in the room start being unable to go to their favorite restaurants, shop at their favorite store, being unable to get basic medical treatment... Maybe they will stop being such *******s. If not, we can continue until they are in the ground and build a new society on top of them.
     
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    They already had laws, rightfully, against that.

    This is about disagreeing with ones views and being offended. Something totally different.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You dont get to dictated if other people are offensive through the strong arm of government. Your right to feel "safe" does not Trump ones right to freedoms of speech and beliefs. Sorry.
     

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