Ukraine:Russia warns West of 'direct military confrontation'

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  1. AlpinLuke

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    https://www.ansa.it/nuova_europa/en...ion_f141287e-2ef2-4ba6-80c7-9740e0c90859.html

    Why not?
    We are not afraid of a "direct military confrontation" with Russia, overall after the poor performances of Russian army in Ukraine.

    I know that someone will mention nukes ... but the usage of nukes would mean that nobody will will something ... everybody will lose all.
    Not to remind that NATO defensive system can intercept Russian missiles with nuclear warheads.

    So ... if Russians want to play ... we are ready to play.
     
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    Italian journalist Fabio Mario Angelico filmed a fragment of Tochka-U, which arrived at the Kramatorsk railway station with a mass of human casualties, and serial number Ш91579 is visible on it.
    Before that, Ukrainians fired at Donbass with rockets with serial numbers Ш91565, Ш91566. The difference is 13 pieces.
    Here is the video: https://tg.la7.it/esteri/guerra-ucr...o-la-stazione-di-kramatosrk-08-04-2022-170588
    Fabio Mario Angelicchio, bravo, bravissimo! :applause::applause::applause:

    No wonder I love Italians.
    Let me remind you that crimes against humanity have no statute of limitations.
    Interestingly, the title before the video is "Ukrainian war, here is the missile that hit the Kramatorsk station."
    Text after the video: "Our envoy Fabio Mario Angelicchio arrived in the evening in the city of Donbass carefully showing the remnants of the Russian-made rocket that caused the massacre."
    That is, the Italian site continues to deceive the reader and writes that the rocket is Russian-made.
    But the video itself is already enough to establish the truth.
    Links to Tochka-U missiles of the same batch:
    https://t.me/rustroyka1945/742
    https://t.me/milinfolive/80770?single
     
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    :roflol:.....bring it....this WILL probably last 72 hrs or less....with the total destruction of what's left of RF "military".
     
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    If the Ukrainians supply military uniforms for the Italians, then the Russians will die of laughter.

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  5. AlpinLuke

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    Nope. If Italians will have to go back to those territories [remember WWII ...] we will be well more stylish!
    Think to "Bersaglieri" ... can you see around other soldiers showing feathers?
    bersa.jpg
     
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    Russian hypervelocity missiles carrying nukes can probably get through any known defenses... except EMP.
    Limited nuclear war is more than possible. I suspect Putin will detonate a very samll nuke in Ukraine just to intimidate the population. It will be a very small one which will have little effect withing Ukraine and no effect at all outside Ukraine.
     
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    Putin risks to lose a lot not obtaining at least some goals in this war.
    So that I cannot exclude he will take some extreme steps. If he's not totally mad he won't use nukes against NATO countries: there is still the conception of mutual destruction to consider ... if you use your nukes, be sure that I will use my nukes ...

    There is the possibility of the usage of a tactical nuke [maybe to disintegrate an important military object], but the reaction would be quite dangerous for Russia [even China could decide to leave Moscow alone in case of such an act].

    My opinion is that Russia will try and take over South Eastern Ukraine using its conventional army. There will be some victories and Russia will claim to have defeated the Nazis clearing those lands. There will be a great celebration in Moscow and nothing more.

    Let's see if I'm too optimistic ...
     
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    Yep, the russian military turned out to be a sad and incredibly cruel joke.

    There will be war crimes trials. That is a done deal.
     
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    Who is we? With due respect you sound like a kid in Mama's basement who plays with a lot of computer games. I doubt "we" will be going to war but I know "we" will go poof just like everyone else if a nuclear war breaks out.

    Easy GI Joe this is not some computer game."We" is a lot of people other than you. It includes your Mama. Before you get her killed you might want to leave her basement and look around the neighbourhood one last time.
     
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    I don't want to scare you, but the high-speed hypersonic missiles that the Putin gang claims to possess are very difficult to shoot down.

    https://partyardmilitary.com/hypersonic-missiles-what-are-they-and-can-they-be-stopped/
     
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    I think Russia intentionally sent their lackluster forces against Ukraine as they do not want the rest of the world to see their better troops.
     
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    I also remember the second world war. And I remember how it all ended.

    The United States increased its purchases of oil from Russia by 43%. They will probably resell it to Europe. This news has already spread through the Asian, Indian media and 3 days ago, the Chinese Foreign Ministry confirmed this news.
    Who do you think benefits from sanctions against Russia?
     
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    We have no leader in any Western country that has big enough testicles to sort out this Russian problem. We no longer have Churchill and Thatcher, and America no longer has Trump.
     
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    There is only one correct way to read the MSM which dominates most of the world's media, and that is to unflip it. In other words if they write that Russia has lost 30 thousand men, it doesn't mean Russia has lost 30 thousand men, it means Ukraine has lost 30 thousand men. If they write that Putin is losing his following in Russia, it really means Putin's following has grown immensely.

    The corporate media's like to play these games to check people's stupidity.




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    J O U R N A L I S T S

    We lie and spin that's how we go
    pretending that we're in the know
    and laugh at what you read and see,
    when it's our own 'reality'.

    Now some might think that we're insane
    since in our lies they see no gain;
    but having all in our control
    is in itself our major goal.

    For in our weird messianic minds,
    when we control, we feel divine.
    And think the world with all its lands
    will soon be in our loftier hands.

    - Jeannette
     
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    Italians in the center of Rome sing the Russian anthem


     
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    Limited nuclear war spreading is also more than possible.

    That's the problem with tactical nukes, if you don't respond in kind, you've lost more than this war.

    Think.
     
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    Contrary to the MSM, Scott Ritter who was a UN weapons inspector among all his other military credentials said that Russia's brilliant strategy in Ukraine will be written down in war manuals.

    Anyway the biggest battle since WWII will be starting now. This will be a face off between Ukraine's 60 to 100 thousand troops that are surrounded and Russia's troops which are either equal in number or more. The Ukrainian troops will either surrender, or will be eliminated. The difference with this and the other battles, is that it will be fought out in the open.

    Russia wants to complete freeing the people in those areas before their celebration on May 9th over their victory of Nazi Germany. One of their goals is to take Odessa and open a direct corridor to Transnistra. This will cut off Ukraine's access to the Black Sea. The other goal might be to take Kharkov which is Ukraine's industrial center and which consists mostly of Russians.
     
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    The governments might be bullied and threatened by Washington, but can the people be threatened? In Greece the workers are stopping the arms from going to Ukraine. What this means is no matter how much the MSM lies, it cannot stop the truth from reaching the people.
     
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    Oh Lord. That was the same thinking Hitler had after the Soviets had trouble with Finland in the Winter War and it was pre-Nuclear Age. Be careful.
     
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    There are trials going on right now in the freed areas. The Russians have excellent Intelligence, and know the names of each and every person and the crimes they committed since 2014. In the past week, they have been going to homes and arresting the Nazis with their Hitlers memorabilia and swastika tattoos and bringing them to trial.

    Ever since Nulands coup and the continuous killings and persecution of the Russians in Ukraine, Vladimir Putin has been collecting names and testimonies and has them all in what he calls his White Books. None of them will escape. They'll either be killed on the battlefield or face a firing squad.
     
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    The ones who lose the most from sanctions has always been the EU, which makes one wonder if that's the intent of our neo liberal/con run government and their lobbyist think tanks.

    Can the EU do otherwise though? I read that 40% or more of the those in the EU parliament are on Soros' payroll.
     
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    About these Nazis... I don't get it. Are they for creating a new German led reich? A reich within Ukraine? Are they simple anti-slavic and see themselves as Aryans? How do they feel about a Jewish president in Zelensky? I don't get the whole Nazi thing in Ukraine.
     
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    It's because there is no Nazi thing in Ukraine. It's all just a big lie, told by a big liar named Putin. And now, he is making the same claims about Latvia.
     
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    Ah! For accuracy ... there are also Italian soldiers with
    I'm Mr John Careful ... nice to meet you.
    Jokes aside, we know Putin better than Stalin, but he could surprise us.
     
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    Brilliant strategy? Putin has just appointed a new general commander for Ukraine [Alexander Dvornikov] and he's the guy who ordered the usage of cluster bombs and thermobaric weapons in Syria [a peaceful guy]. But he fought on our side, so that we ignored that "detail" ...
     
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