That's just dumb. What happened in Odessa and the Donbass since 2014 is well known. No amount of western propaganda can cover up with the Ukrainian government did to their own civilians. In WW2, the West allied with Russia to defeat the Nazis. Now the West allies with Nazis against the Russians. The Russians will win this war, just like they did WW2.
Go find them yourself. I've seen them and I don't want to see them again. You'd probably enjoy them since you support the Azov Nazis, so be my guest.
Shouldn't you have called them "native Americans"? How do you look against rest of the American League this season anyway?
Uhh...no it's not dumb Bill...Odessa was a $hitshow perpetrated by Dwarfstan and he lost. In ww2...US agreed to fight Nazis with the Sovs ....that's it....while supplying it with massive lend lease. Each one had separate agendas after hostilities....all bets were off. Russia will win this war"....how so? Dwarfstan should be more worried about the sanctions that will bankrupt the "gas station" ....Ukraine is lost.
No wonder Germany supports Putin's genocide. They truly hate freedom - especially freedom of speech. As socialists, Germans truly do adore the Hitler-types. They most certainly do . . . They have a rifle, pistol, body armor, and explosives - what do you suggest happen? What does this force involve? Be more specific.
You ask too many questions. Now it is my turn to ask you you. Do you support genocide and killing of kids as claimed by this journalist? Why US media, which you believe has a freedom of speech does not talk about this case? Very inconvenient case? Eh?
Those Nazis who have rifle and other guns and use them should be killed. Like the Adolph Eichmann to whom it was made a reference by this Ukranian journalist. This force involve the same thing as US involved when it instigated bloody coup in Kiev in 2014 which resulted in nationalistic government with a lot of far right people coming into power. It was Poroshenko, who clearly stated the position of nationalistic government: we make such a thing that the kids in Donbass would live in the cellars, the retired people will not get any pensions from Ukranian government etc. Here is the link to his speech:
I'll say it again since you wanted to ignore it the first time..... I would say the ones aggressively invading another country are the true Nazis here.
Please provide evidence of: Thousands Ukraine government orchestration I'm not talking about YouTube videos where a window was broken - or a couple of people died. And how many Ukrainians were killed by Russia- supported and armed separatists in this low level Civil war that you're alluding to?
Forgive me if I got the wrong impression from your post but it seemed to indicate that the Russians were treating their prisoners of war civilly while the ukrainians were the barbarians.
You got that part right. I posted about specific instances that has video proof and you respond with some vague talk about dead people for which there could be several explanations beyond your implied "the Russians did it". You are, I suppose, aware that the Ukies not only handed out guns to anyone that wanted one, but opened up the prisons and armed those guys, too. You wanna do Bucha, too? Mariupol? Or are we just sticking with the vague, but all-encompassing "all over the country"?
BOTH of them. Unless you want the killing to go on forever one side or the other has to STOP doing it The averagely decent human finds actual revenge to be about as appealing as a steaming dog turd under glass. Your vengeance may be as justified and called for as Pearl Harbor; it still looks just like simple cruelty to someone from the outside "Vengeance is mine; saith the Lord," . Romans 12:19
You can say whatever you want but the bottom line is this..... They are not the ones invading their neighbor and killing civilians and trying to level the whole damn country. They are not the aggressors
So do you suggest the ukrainians just lay down their arms and throw their self at the mercy of the Russians and hope for the best?
I'm suggesting they follow the articles of war scrupulously and treat their prisoners humanely in accordance, which I understand they are doing for the most part. Let Putin and his Spetsnaz stand alone before the Hague in coming years.
"They" being the Ukrainians, have ignored the Minsk Accord, which "they" signed back in 2015, choosing instead to continue shelling civilians in Donbas, resulting in over 12,000 dead. This has all happened while being behind their side of the "line of contact"; a line set up to prevent hostilities and monitored by the OSCE. Prior to Russia launching into Ukraine on February 24, the Ukies had amassed an estimated 60,000 troops in the area along the line of contact. That's a lot of non-aggression! Now Russia has moved in and will non-aggressively kick their ass. It didn't have to be this way. All Ukraine had to do was honor the agreement they signed. Instead it has come to this. Without saying it in so many words, Russia has invoked R2P, just as NATO did in Yugoslavia. Too late now to whine about it.
Sorry, I'll just stop you there. The person who has an emotional outburst linked to the invasion of their nation & the killing of a friend and then apologizes is a flawed but decent human. They are NOT par tof the problem. The people who continue to propagandize on behalf of the nation doing the invading, shelling, raping & murdering are flawd people too, but they are not decent and they ARE part of the problem. There isn't some easy 'both sides' here.
Enjoyi reading it. This source will definitely shut your gob. If the MSN isn't reporting on Ukrainian human right abuses and war crimes, it doesn't mean they don't happen. Kyiv-2017 Unlawful detentions and torture committed by Ukrainian side in the armed conflict in Eastern Ukraine https://truth-hounds.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Unlawful-detention-by-ukrainians.pdf On their way the detainees were used as human shields; soldiers used them to cover from a sniper’s fire. According to the victim’s testimony, the sniper fired before the car, rather than at the car itself. The practice of using people as human shields is prohibited by the international law and is classified by the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court as a war crime22. later, the detainees were brought to the territory of a tire-mounting workshop, where they were forced to carry tires. In the evening, they were forcedly moved to Mariupol. Upon their arrival, plastic bags were put on their heads and they were chained in pairs. On the first day detainees were beaten. Maksym has a scar and kidney problems from the beating with a whip. In Mariupol, the detainees were forced to work: they cleaned toilets and dug pits. During all this time, they slept in the open air. Maksym also stated that he and other detainees were taken to ilovaysk and shakhtars’k during the battles, where they were forced to collect body parts on the battlefield23. maksym was held in mariupol for a month, before being transferred to volnovakha in septem- ber and subsequently - to the camp of "shakhtars’k" battalion, situated in a boarding house near Novomoskovsk (Dnipropetrovsk region). In the beginning of November 2014, Maksym managed to escape from captivity with the help of one of the soldiers. He spent more than 3 months in captivity.