Ukranian journalist calls for genocide of Russians

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  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I dont think the guy is necessarily a nazi. He made a statement the next day that he was responding out of greif for someone who died in the fighting. His mistake was making a public statement while greiving. He apologized the next day.

    But it is true that if this had been said about any group except Russians, it would be media headlines and neither the apology nor the context would matter.

    TBC Ukraine does have a nazi problem, and has for years. But now it also has a 'being militarily invaded by Russia' problem that is just as contextually important.
     
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  2. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and even if they did not start the thing ... its one of these things where they sit around and wait for the right opportunity .. like using 911 to further the agenda of Daddy Bush - the Wolfowitz Pearls docrtine - Agenda which brought us the Patriot Act.

    and yeah .. war is ugly ..
     
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  3. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do?
    He did?
    The American lies about WMD's, the false proof, the CIA spy efforts to plant fake evidence, the illegal invasion, the torture chambers at Abu Graib and Guantanamo, the death squads installed by the CIA and the fact that no one was imprisoned for it except whistle-blowers like Manning and Assange have all rendered any invasion by anyone justified.
     
  4. Josh77

    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you think corruption and evil makes more corruption and evil justified, then I can't help you.
     
  5. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Getting away with worse evil and deeper corruption doesn't make followers of the same justified but it does make it excusable, particularly when the accuser is the worse evil and deeper corruption. It's like Ted Bundy criticising someone for copping a feel.
     
  6. Josh77

    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You'll have to excuse me for not finding the killing of civilians and destruction of cities "excusable". I don't excuse western countries when they do it either.
     
  7. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know you think killing Russian civilians is wonderful because your beloved Creepy Joe said it is.
     
  8. Josh77

    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I can't stand Joe Biden. Or Trump. I'm sure you think killing Ukrainians is wonderful because your beloved Putin says it is. You are the one justifying invasions and killing civilians, not me.
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know that Creepy Joe is your beloved leader and that’s why you voted for him. You think killing Russians in the Donbas is wonderful because you are a racist and because Joey said it is good to kill Russians. You are the one justifying your proxy-by-NATO invasion of Ukraine and the illegal installation of the CIA-puppet Zalinsky in the first place who will be expendable as soon as the United Snakes has succeeded in coercing No-Krainium to become another mafia-like victim of Washington’s “protection” racket. You justify all of this – not me.
     
  10. Josh77

    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are wrong on pretty much every count. I did not vote for Biden. As I said earlier I don’t like him. If you look through posts of mine in the past you will see that I have criticized NATO’s eastward expansion since the fall of the Soviet Union. Etc etc.

    None of that justifies how Russia is killing civilians and flattening cities. Russia is not showing any restraint in their actions, even engaging in petty retribution hitting cities with cruise missiles after the Moskva sank (even though they claim it wasn’t Ukraine that sank it).

    As I said before I think the people of Russia are wonderful. Your claims of “racism”, as if Russian was a race, are way off. The way you insist on labeling me with things I have denied shows me that you are being willfully blind, and believe only what you want to believe to convince yourself that all the death and destruction is for good reason. There is never good reason for it.

    So, to use your words, you justify this - not me.
     
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  11. FreshAir

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    because Russia is the aggressor in this fight

    same would be true if a Jew that was grieving while Hitler was wiping them out said something like that

    it's not the same
     
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  12. Thingamabob

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    It’s already been proven that you support and adore Creepy Joe Biden so don’t lie and make your pain even worse. There is no doubt that you are a racist because you think killing Russians in Donbas is a good thing to do.

    The bottom line is that you support the US-NATO encroachment/invasion into NoKrainium, the murder of innocent civilian Russians, and you regard the illegal CIA puppet Zalinsky a hero. The worst thing is that now you are lying about it and you are not even ashamed of yourself.
     
  13. Thingamabob

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    WRONG: the aggressor is (and nearly always is) the United Snakes. It is the US that has thwarted any agreement Russia and Ukraine have had and continues to sabotage every chance those two nations have had to find a peaceful solution. So ...

    1). the US is the aggressor
    2). the US discourages peace
     
  14. FreshAir

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    Putin supporters support Putin no mater what he does
     
  15. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your problem is that the idea of supporting someone or something "no matter what" comes from your own top priorities & evaluation so you assume everyone is just as stupid.
     
  16. Josh77

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    hahaha, wow, Putin has you wrapped right around his little finger, doesn’t he? the only thing that is illegal is Russia’s invasion. Your sticking your fingers in your ears and stomping at everything I say just makes you look childish and foolish. With that mentality no wonder it was so easy for Putin to brainwash you.

    run along now! Go be a good little lap dog for murderous master Pootie!
     
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    Yepp.

    Ukraine will never forgive Russia for what it has done.

    And neither will I.
     
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    And people will never forgive the U.S Washington policy makers and neoconservatives for starting this proxy war against the Russian Federation and endangering the whole world for their own selfish purposes.
     
  19. vis

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    Russia does not need your forgiveness. And do not speak for Ukraine, you are way out of line here.
     
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    Nobody forced Russian fascists to cross the border. We’ll see how you squeal after this second push fails and Russia will be left with virtually no military (ironically - demilitarized). :)
     
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    I have proved that you support Creepy Joe Biden and that you are a racist who thinks killing Russians is wonderful. The facts and proof stand for themselves so you're crapping your pants with your back against the wall and fuming. :frustrated:

    Slander is all you've got left in hopes I won't notice you are evading the issue. It won't work. :no:
     
  22. Thingamabob

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    It is fascinating to observe the way it is playing out.

    * Post-war NATO members
    * Former Warsaw Pact crossovers to NATO members

    ... and which NATO members are the first to hear the penny drop. It seems to be the former Warsaw Pact nations who see the US/NATO for what it really is which I find both amazing but also logical because they have understood that the most important promises made by Radio Free Europe turned out to be lies.
     
  23. Thingamabob

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    Nobody forced the Western Allies to cross the Rhein.
     
  24. Thedimon

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    What are you talking about?
    Oh, you are trying to bring up the events from almost a century ago for your apology tour justifying rushists raping and murdering Ukrainian civilians?
     
  25. Thingamabob

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    I'm talking about the same thing you are talking about. Have you lost yourself in your own logic? The Western Allies crossed international borders in order to save the people from the Nazis of Germany exactly as the Russians have crossed an international border to save people from the Nazis of NoKrainium. Duh! Keep your finger on the page as you read so you won't lose your way again. :nod:
     

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