US Army teaches hatred of Islam...

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  1. thediplomat2.0

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    Reciprocation leads to equal retaliation. The cycle of conflict does not end as a result. If one is to employ power against an enemy, such force must debilitate them beyond repair.

    Shock and awe is a prime example of such. During the Iraq War, military officials decimated the Iraqi force to the point that they surrendered very quickly. The first portion of this approach was the testing of the MOAB missile. This display of sheer power was enough to force Iraqi soldiers to surrender, even before invasions occurred.
     
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    Worked very well too. Too bad we played patty-cake after that and have been doing it ever since.
     
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    The OP seems to not understand how military defense training works. Having a military course on war with Islam is not teaching hatred of Islam as the OP contends. It is, rather, a common military way of doing things. The military must by able to react to any and all situations, even those that presently seem far fetched or extremely unlikely to occur. That is why we have contingency plans for full out war with Communist China, Russia, Great Britain, Canada, Germany, and just about any country or group of countries in the world. It does not mean we are planning, suggesting or even contemplating war with the subject of the exercise, only that we have a contingency plan in the unlikely event that country or group of countries became an active enemy and we had to go to war.
     
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    Something seems not right with this article. While I don't dismiss that individuals would behave in such a manner, the US military having this institutionalized would seem outrageous in its form. I.e., I had a friend/co-worker that was a Muslim in the US Navy for 20 yrs and I don't remember any of this being mentioned.
     
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    Evil respects and fears strength.

    Strength comes from knowing your enemy and being willing to act ruthlessly.

    That keeps the animals in their cages.
     
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    Intolerance of religious fanatics is not religious intolerance.
     
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    hmmm yes and no, it's to be expected. There is no morality in war. When sending a bunch of youngsters into the Middle East with finely tuned weapons of all divergence one must assure that they have a certain degree of disdain for the "enemy". The administration doesn't want those kids thinking about the politics behind it, it's much harder to shoot that way. The orders that everyone in Fallujah is a terrorist for example, for a thinking man is ludicrous, for an enraged young soldier who has bought into the idea that all Muslims want to kill him and his family... it's acceptable, or something like that. Personally I don't know how they come out the other side without being completely screwed in the head, but we all know that many of them don't.
     
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    Then why was the course withdrawn as soon as it was made known to the moron who dreamed it up's superior officers? The course was about inculcating a hatred of Muslims, not military strategy, that's why. Does the US course on war with Britain mention Protestant Christians? What about Italy-does it explicitly name Roman Catholics as potential targets? And Russia-Russian Orthodox?
     
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    In any of the EFCGs (Expeditionary Culture Field Guides) developed for CENTCOM and USAFRICOM that I've seen. The guides contained information pertaining to the cross-cultural environment, from individual verbal and nonverbal interactions to general knowledge about past diplomatic and military engagements.

    The ECFGs provide deploying forces with language, region and culture information as it pertains to their assigned country or region.

    There was never any mention and/or condonement of intolerance towards all of Islam.


    "Me thinks the lady doth protest too much"

    The Leftists are just looking for an excuse to bash the Armed Forces...
    same old (*)(*)(*)(*), different day.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Really? So why did the Army withdraw the course and move its instigator to non-teaching duties if it was as innocent as you claim? See, I'd never categorise the military as 'liberal'...
     
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    It's one course.
    I'd like to see the syllabus before passing judgment on it.

    Till then, this is hearsay.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    No, it isn't hearsay. Named Army officers have said that the course both existed, was a travesty and had no business being taught. Those are facts-unless you want to argue with General Dempsey, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who condemned it himself...
     
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    and the USARMY policed their own...the course was withdrawn...

    Therefore why is this still relevant?

    Would you like to see some of the progressive tripe taught at Public Universities? Professors paid by tax dollars.
     
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    no im not i figure some nut was being dumb and his superiors took action no need to blame the entire military
     
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    There is already another thread talking about this, my reply is there if you wish to read it. Basically, if you believe that this ELECTIVE course taught to a number of about 800 officers since 2004 is any indication of US military policy on Muslims, you are stretching it. 800 officers since 2004 represents probably a 1/4 of a percent of all mid level officers who currently serve in the US military. Of course im not surprised, since most anti US military folks like yourself try to sensationalize everything by trying to turn an isolated event into a problematic non existent trend to suit your agenda.
     
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    Why do you think? They withdrew the course because of political correctness and fools who actually believe the army is engaged in teaching hatred of a particular religion.
     
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    Lol, nobody believes your little war stories. Kick rocks, troll.
     
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    The militarys job is teach hatred. You general don't kill people you like.

    You have to hate or be brainwashed in order to murder other people.
     
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    Ya, you're wrong on both accounts

    Instilling hate or brainwashing(whatever that may mean) aren't tools needed for the members of any military to kill another person.

    It's called desensitizing.

    Nice try though.
     
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    Desensitizing them so they can murder people they have never met. Call it what you want the end result is the same.

    I'm sure the military tells them not to hate but love their targets. That make perfect sense You can sell that bull(*)(*)(*)(*) to someone else.
     
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    Once again, hate has nothing to do with it. Why involve such a messy emotion like hate, when you can make the act of eliminating another person deemed your enemy, mechanical?

    I mean it's really not that hard to grasp, well maybe except for you.
     
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    I've talked to to many troops to believe that is true. They actually hate Muslums. They never even try to hide it. They are proud of th fact they hate them.
     
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    Ya, no you haven't.
     
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    I most certainly have. I work in the ghetto. They pay me good because of the neighborhood I have to work in. That being the case there is a ton of security. They rotate a hand full a month and over the 9 years I have been there we have had hundreds of new security. Almost all of them are ex military. Trust me. I know how they feel about Muslums and hate is something that oozes from their being. They look at it like a badge of honor to dislike Muslums.

    They call them *********s and sand (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s with out batting an eye lash.
     
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    From your cite: "“They hate everything you stand for and will never coexist with you, unless you submit,” the instructor, Army Lt. Col. Matthew Dooley, said in a presentation last July for the course at Joint Forces Staff College in Norfolk, Virginia"

    I don't think that's untrue. So what's the big deal?
     

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