US defence boss: We could refuse a nuclear strike order from Donald Trump

The principle question is still the same irregardless of the technology or the time.

 

My statements were based upon the Law of the Land.

 

Ironic given the appeasement of the BLOTUS!

 

Duplicate

 

Your misunderstanding of the SCOTUS ruling is not my problem.

 

No it isn’t. We didn’t have a practical alternative in WW2. We do now.

 

Uh, they have nukes or do even understand what they are? Germany didn't.

 

Do we know exactly where all of that is in NK which is the most closed country in history?

 

It’s not closed to imagery satellites. Their military has to communicate and their communications are subject to multiple kinds of signals intelligence and electronic intelligence scrutiny.

 

They have underground facilities that we can't possibly know the location of and who knows what they have disguised above ground. Satellites are great but you need on the ground intelligence and in NK we have none.

 

Underground facilities have many ways of being detected. There’s an entire field of intelligence gathering called MASINT that involves novel uses of radar and other sensors to detect targets that would have been undetectable decades ago.

 

Far from foolproof though. One missle silo gets away and it's goodbye SK.

 

I didn't mis-understand anything.

 

Because South Korea can be destroyed by a single nuke and has zero missile defenses?

 

No, it's an example of an illegal order. Just like if Trump ordered the US military to bomb a shopping mall. It would have to be refused.

 

Law of which land?

Look...The president, even this one, doesn't roll out of bed in the morning and get the urge to push the button with his morning coffee.

Any use of nuclear weapons, even a preemptive first strike, comes after deliberation between the president, his cabinet, and loads of input from an array of military experts who have already simulated several different first strike scenarios. By the time any order is given to launch, the process has moved well past the possibility of the order being potentially "unlawful".

Some of you throwing around the word "unlawful" have no idea what that word means from a military viewpoint.

 

In which case the onus is entirely on you to substantiate your bogus allegation.

 

Your beloved BLOTUS has already demonstrated his complete and utter lack of impulse control and his dearth of comprehension of the consequences of his odious utterances.

The military are already ignoring his orders.

 

Seoul could be destroyed with a single nuke and unfortunately missle defense is iffy at best. It could be far more advanced if Democrats hadn't demagogued Reagan when he proposed research on this and when they labeled it star wars.

 

Sorry but huge comparison fail.

 

They have been trying to get that to work ever since and even now the tests only work if they know the exact trajectory beforehand.

The problem is way more complex than it was made out to be by St Reagan. Not only do you need to know the exact trajectory but also all of the weather conditions at the interception altitude. Even a slight temperature variance at those speeds and distances can throw it off.

 

Point is the left mocked and ridiculed Reagan for proposing research into a missle defense system everyone wishes he had now. If we had been actively pursuing this since Reagan was in office it's likely we would have it now but as I said Democrats demagogued it to death.

 

The research was pursued and the Dems were right to ridicule it because even with today's technology it not technically feasible to create an effective missile defense shield.

It isn't the supercomputers that are needed. It is the detailed data on the trajectory path that is impossible to collect.

 

None the less Reagan was ahead of his time when he proposed this and the left laughed at the very concept and accused him of wanting to militarize space. Who knows where we'd be now if research had started then. No way to tell.

 

How many times does it have to be repeated that research DID START back then and it is still isn't feasible?