US Indicts Venezuelan Leader Nicolas Maduro, Offers $15 Million Reward For His Capture

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  1. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oops... did I??
     
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    Well what on earth did you mean by "keeping you in and starve you to death?"
     
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    Pompeo's - 'Transition' Plan
    Tells Venezuela To Suffer Into Submission



    And this is the, self admitted Lying, Cheating, Thieving, Murdering
    ............. [​IMG] POS [​IMG] who's Policies Americans want to support ?

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    Don't Miss ! - 9:57 thru 10:26
    John Stockwell - Former CIA Officer describing the US
    approach to countries like Nicaragua and Venezuela

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    "The Point is to put pressure on the targeted Government
    by ripping apart the social and economic fabric of the country.
    Now that's words you know, social and economic fabric, that
    means making the people suffer as much as you can, until the
    country plunges into chaos, until at some point you can step
    in and impose your choice of Governments on that Country."

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    And their are People here who actually want to be a Part of this sort of Crap !?
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Thanks for the words from Stockwell!
     
  5. Ethereal

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    Oh look.

    Trump and his supporters are pushing for more "regime change" and more wars even though Trump promised to do the exact opposite.

    More proof that Trump lost his battle with the deep state, and that he is nothing more than a servile puppet doing the bidding of the CIA, the big banks, and the military-industrial complex.
     
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    This has nothing to do with "trafficking" or drugs. It's just another flimsy excuse meant to justify another "regime change" operation in a country that has lots of oil. Trump is just doing what he's told to do by the deep state. He is their puppet now.
     
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  7. Ethereal

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    I realize you're being sarcastic. Is that your way of endorsing Trump's failing "regime change" operation in Venezuela?

    Can you explain the legal justification for charging foreign citizens with violations of US drug laws?

    In what legal universe are the officials of foreign countries obligated to obey US domestic laws?

    Would it be okay if China charged President Trump with violating Chinese domestic laws?

    Why do you hate the concept of national sovereignty and independence? Are you a globalist?
     
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    Meanwhile, Trump and his administration shovel billions of dollars at the world's worst dictatorship in Saudi Arabia, a corrupt regime that openly supports Al Qaeda and ISIS, suffocates all democracy in its crib, and brutally represses human rights in its own borders.

    But let's pretend like you and Trump give a crap about the human rights of people in Venezuela.

    Tell me, how will another "regime change" operation help the people of Venezuela? You think starting a civil war in Venezuela will make life better there? You think causing Venezuela's civilization to descend into chaos will be good for the average person in Venezuela?

    Be honest. You don't give two craps about the people of Venezuela. You just want to conquer another country with lots of oil in it. That's your real agenda here. And it's obvious.
     
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    Lots of countries have adopted socialism.

    Norway's government owns about 70% of Equinor, which is the country's largest oil and gas company.

    Russia and China both have nationalized their oil supplies to large extents.

    You gonna overthrow them all? You gonna rescue the entire world from the socialist policies of their governments?

    Where does your "regime change" obsession end? With the US conquering the entire world?
     
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  10. Creasy Tvedt

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    Where did I ever call for otherthrow and regime change?

    Like I said, may the great El Presidente Maduro reign over his socialist paradise for a thousand years.
     
  11. Ethereal

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    Didn't Trump just sign a spending bill that gives millions of Americans a $1,200 check? Didn't Trump just sign a bill that bails out corporations?

    Sounds pretty "socialist" to me.

    Maybe you should move to Venezuela instead?
     
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    So you don't support Trump's failing regime change operation in Venezuela?

    Simple yes or no question.

    Why should Americans care who the president of Venezuela is?
     
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    The only reason I don't want Venezuela collapsing, is because I know exactly where a whole bunch of refugees are going to make a beeline for if it does, and so do you.

    Other than that, I don't give a crap about the socialist paradise of Venezuela.

    They made their socialist bed, and they can get screwed in it.
     
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    No. I don't support any sort of violent regime change, and I don't care if the Venezuelans elect a donkey to be their Burro in Chief.

    Keep up the sanctions, and keep out of Venezuela.

    There's nothing there worth wasting American lives for.
     
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    Why are you and Trump supporting another failed "regime change" operation? I thought Trump was supposed to focus on America first. Instead, he's wasting our tax dollars on trying to install a puppet in Venezuela.

    Trump is a liar. Trump has broken every single promise he's ever made. Trump and his supporters have totally failed to put America first and make it "great" again. You deserve to lose in 2020.
     
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    Yet that's exactly what will happen if Trump gets his way.
     
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    I hope he doesn't.

    I hope Maduro keeps working his socialist magic for a looooong time.
     
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    What sort of regime change do you support then?

    Sanctions are a form of economic warfare intended to inflict harm on the general population. They are destabilizing and ultimately ineffective. Given that, I'm not sure how you can justify keeping them in place.

    Trump hasn't kept us out of Venezuela. He's got the CIA down there trying to effect a regime change. He's funneling millions of our tax dollars to that servile puppet, Guaido, who never even stood in a presidential election.
     
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    What are doing to stop him?

    I don't care one way or the other.
     
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    And yet the US is still trying to steal Venezuela's oil.

    How greedy can you get?
     
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    Venezuela's economy is hurting because of US sanctions, not because of Maduro.
     
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    Guiado is nothing more than a foreign-backed pretender who didn't even stand in the presidential election. His "claim" to the presidency is an utter fraud backed by zero democratic legitimacy. And the fact that Maduro hasn't executed Guaido for treason is proof that Maduro is far from the "dictator" his enemies claim him to be.
     
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    Political.
    Maybe the Venezualans will get tired of all the wonderful benefits of socialism and all the instability, and they'll fix the Maduro problem all by themselves.

    It is, after all, a problem they themselves created when they cheered for socialism, so let them solve it.
    Yep, that's how political regime change works.
     
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    So you do support a regime change after all.

    So you want to solve a "problem" that has zero impact on daily life in America by pursuing a strategy that has never worked once and which causes massive harm to innocent people.

    Sounds reasonable.

    Except it doesn't work. It just drags on endlessly while harming the weakest and most vulnerable members of a population.
     
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    The definition of socialism is that the government owns the means of production.

    Tell me how a stimulus is taking over control of private business.

    Think before you speak.
     

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