Vax - I trusted the government, now I'm abandoned!

I don't believe it.

You refuse to listen to rational arguments. So there is no reason to believe you.

 

Oh, but take heart! Now the 'trial balloon' is being sent up for a FOURTH shot. Maybe a FOURTH shot will 'do the trick'?!

Like most people, I've been very compliant and trusting... until now. But now I'm not so sure anymore. Four fugging shots for the same virus in one year tells me it is increasingly likely that the 'experts' don't have their sh*t together yet....

 

Ms Lenarczyk, should continue to trust the government and just chill. It cost me almost $4K the last time I went to the ER with insurance for a tummy bug. She gets a lot more bang for her bucks than I did. "It is just a virus going arou....hey you have insurance!!! We need to do some really expensive tests just to be certain it isn't a rare condition caused by Sri Lankan spider bites."

 

Do you believe in karma? Because I do. And of the two of us, it will be more kind to me. Your cowardly slander is dishonorable. How dare you launch such a personal attack. If I was of a similar nature to you I would consider It justice if something like this happens to someone close to you, but I don't want to wallow down in your level. I'm not better than you but I'm certainly better than that. I hope nothing like this ever happens to anyone close to you and if it does I certainly hope some person of low moral character doesn't come along on the internet and and call you a liar for sharing it

I asked perfectly rational questions you are the one who refuses to address them. You choose instead cowardly slander. But it is certainly not surprising. Like I said you win the prize.

And people wonder why I distrust the left in general....

But I do know I should not judge an entire group by the standards you have set

 

When they start administering these shots directly into the temple they will start to work better.

 

There is absolutely no logical reason for anyone to completely trust any other person, including doctors, to make their health decisions. Sure, they have training to understand how the body works and actuarial tables to tell them the most likely successful options but they don't get to live in their patients' bodies 24/7 so it's the patients right, actually responsibility, to educate themselves and advocate for themselves.

Her statement is equivalent to "My friend jumped off a cliff and told me to jump."

Every single day, someone on the planet is experiencing some kind of life-altering problem due to medical mistakes.

Are you speaking for ALL of them or just this one because her situation fits your anti-vax position?

People learn and retain things better when they have to think them through.

With that said, as much as we claim to be caring of others, people generally are not very helpful or kind to others when they are sick and that intensifies when the other person accuses the unwell person of malingering. Doctors do this constantly and it only contributes to the person's anxieties and frustrations.

Again, do you only care that this one person is not getting well and doctors have basically called it "psychosomatic"? If so, what about the other millions of people that face the same thing? Will you be their voice as well?

This question makes no sense and I'm sure you can see why. Every living thing eventually dies so what's the point in doing anything for anybody at anytime anywhere for any reason, Koko? They are going to die anyway.

Grammar Nazi...

"Vax" does NOT need an apostrophe. (Ask yourself "Does this noun POSSESS something?" It needs an apostrophe if the answer is "yes").

"Don't" does need an apostrophe. (It is added here because it's a contraction of "do" and "not").

 

I think if you go to the CDC website, vaers, it will tell you some of the "horror stories."

Absolutely true.

As for me, I got the first shot, and the second. Then got covid. I will surely not be getting any additional boosters. Since the first two shots didn't work, I see no reason further shots of the same would. What's that saying about the definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result?

 

Their pushback to that is it "doesn't prevent you from contracting COVID but lessens the degree of your symptoms."

Frankly, here's my problem with the whole thing and my pendulum doesn't swing depending on variables that have nothing to do with anything (ie. political party, race, religion, nationality, sexuality, etc.). Remember those late night infomercials hawking all kinds of junk? A phone number pops up saying to call before the offer is closed. Never in the history of the world has "act now before it's gone" been in the buyer's interests. It's never happened.

And, why the hell are we paying Fauci more money than our POTUS earns AND a giant bonus to prevent future pandemics when he didn't prevent this one??? Fauci is a liar. He's the one that said we could go "back to normal" once the vaccines are distributed. Then, masks on, masks off, social distance except for people in your household, wear socks, don't wear socks...it's ridiculous and he compounds his stupidity by claiming all of it's "following the science."

He's been on our payroll since the 1980s!!! If he doesn't know the "science" by now...???

 

Do proper research.

Depending on the type of cancer yes, any cancer diagnosis would be entirely co-incidental. The vast majority of cancers,e.g. breast cancer originate in different organs, metastasize and migrate to the lymph nodes where tumor cells are often detected. So depending on the type of cancer and other variables it can be months, before cells from a preexisting, primary tumor migrate to the lymph nodes.

Oh and for the record Lymphomas are a common type of cancer but still only make up about 4% of all cancer diagnosis. They are also initially very slow growing and patients can have them for years without showing symptoms. Not only that but swollen lymph nodes are a common symptom of infection and in some cases vaccination. The difference is that with infections the swelling will subside within a couple of weeks and not persist. So if the person your talking about developed swollen lymph nodes immediately after vaccination its almost certainly a reaction to the vaccine (or a concurrent infection). For it to be cancer the lymph node would have to have been swollen before they were vaccinated or at the least there had to have been cancer cells present in the lymph node prior to vaccination.

So yes it is giant coincidence therefore and not proof anything.

One last point.

I will repeat a story told by a Doctor on a radio program. He was in his practice attending to an infant that was scheduled for one of its standard immunizations. So he's with the child and it's mother about to give the injection when the phone rings. He promptly puts down the needle and takes the call which only lasts a short time. He then turns around, picks up the needle and just as he's about to give the vaccination the child goes into convulsions. Turns out the cause was a well known medical condition in infants. The Doctor initiated treatment and the child made a rapid recovery and was perfectly fine afterwards.

Now the point of that story. But for the phone call the Doctor in question would have administered the shot and shortly afterwards the baby would have gone into convulsions. The conclusion lay people would automatically draw - the vaccine shot caused the convulsions. When in fact nothing would have been further from the truth.

And if it had panned out that way? Well you or someone else just like you would be on a forum like this somewhere repeating that story and claiming it was 'proof' of how dangerous vaccines are.

 

Vaccines, like medications and medical interventions have different effects on different people. I take two medications that are said to cause drowsiness. They've never made me drowsy but I'm not allowed to leave on my own volition if I get taken to an ER and either of them is administered. Doctors and hospitals use actuarial tables so the "overall" impact to whatever percentage of people outweighs the individual response to a specific course of treatment.

NOTE: I'm not advocating that you get the vaccine. I'm just pointing out that her reaction isn't just about the vaccine. Her whole medical history, body type, family history, comorbidities, negative externalities, etc. all play a part which is why I advocate for people to educate themselves and ask questions.
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I'm living with a lifelong health problem due to a vaccine injury in college. They withheld my degree because my evil parents wouldn't give me my childhood vaccination records and the doctor that did them passed away decades before. I got sick instantly and ended up in the hospital for several months. It was brutal. I can't even imagine going through what I went through on top of a cancer diagnosis.

I hope your lady is on the road to recovery. Thanks for sharing your story.

 

The vaccine didn't cause cancer.

 

I didn't say it did.

P.S. Emoticons are a bit childish.

 

Well the cancer is some sort of squamous cell or something like that.

And I have already said I can't prove it does but I think it triggered it. So I'll be the first to tell you right here I don't have any medical credentials.

But go ahead and share yours with us since you professed to speak is such an authority on this topic.

It seems like it doesn't matter what the subject is here at PF we will always have an expert come out of the woodwork...

 

Well according to you she doesn't even have cancer....
I would say I'll sit here and wait for you to share your medical credentials with us but I'll sit here and die of old age.

 

SCCs are bloody common here because of the level of UV

 

Then this part of my previous answer applies 'The vast majority of cancers,e.g. breast cancer originate in different organs, metastasize and migrate to the lymph nodes where tumor cells are often detected. So depending on the type of cancer and other variables it can be months, before cells from a preexisting, primary tumor migrate to the lymph nodes.'. Squamous cell (skin) cancers are slow growing. You simply can't go from vaccination (the magic cancer causing bullet) to infected lymph glands in a few weeks. Your talking months if not years.

 

This is an Australian story and we have a UHC system - not perfect but it works for us

 

Yep!
In fact it may well have saved her life - odds are she is/was a smoker and/or had had HPV at some point and that those lymph nodes were enlarged but the acute inflammation from a reaction to the vaccine (something that can happen with any infection) caused the nodes to become more prominent allowing for a diagnosis

But this is why the CDC has VAERS so ALL probable, possible, might be, could be, reactions are tracked

 

So, one person out of hundreds of millions vaccinated?
How many unvaccinated died or have long term issues from COVID-19?

 

I used to get terrible migraines decades ago. It was my impression then that modern medicine had not really figured out the whole migraine thing. Or, how to stop the pain.

And, that might still be the case but I don't get migraine headaches anymore, so I haven't sought treatment for them, and I don't know if there has been any progress in figuring it out.

I'm under the impression that tinnitus is another unknown condition and there is no treatment for it that will stop the ringing in the ears.

So, from my point of view, these are two unknown conditions that modern medicine doesn't know about and can't diagnose or treat.

 

"Modern medicine" has done many wonderful things for people's health but it is still very much in its infancy. This is the primary reason I advise people to educate themselves and learn to listen to their own bodies. It makes no sense for anyone to believe that someone outside of themselves will care *more* about their health than they should care about their own health. Beyond that, the AMA is a for-profit business. There is no advantage to making people well. We're their repeat customers.




This is also why it bothers me that they've choked out competition by criminalizing, demonizing and dismissing naturopathic and homeopathic treatments which have been around way longer than the 18th century.

The reality is people like the woman in the article the OP posted get turned away over and over and over and they are miserable. Women are more likely to be dismissed as "hysterical" and sent for psychiatry. Almost all clinical trials are done on white males. Everybody else is just "worrisome" to them, I guess.

Why should a person just have to suffer with **no** alternative choices when the people that turn to when something is wrong is telling them it doesn't even exist? How is it ethical or moral to openly state that modern medicine doesn't have all the answers while simultaneously telling people that nothing is wrong with them if their examination(s) and test(s) can't locate the problem?

eta: There is no "cure" for cancer the AMA will allow to be discussed and countless people die of that every single day.

P.S. I'm glad your migraines finally went away.

 

but that was the very point of the so called innoculation - get the people more become electromagnetic, so they can be used as possible retransmitters, at least, or slave devices to launder the bitcoin, or such.

 

Aspirin gives temporary relief but then NSAIDs can also cause it

Mayo Clinics has a clear run down on it

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/tinnitus/symptoms-causes/syc-20350156

Only when I was looking through the causes I saw the word sex and………

Lets just say Bowerbird has a dirty mind and was terribly disappointed when the rest of that sentence read “men are more likely….

 

My state government, which administers the free hospital system, although it is funded by the commonwealth (Don’t go there I swear the Aussie government could complicate a bandaid) has instituted a thing called “Ryan’s Rule”.

Now understand every “suspicious” or untimely death is investigated by the coroner so we have strong feedback mechanisms

Out of one very sad Coroners Case came Ryan’s Rule

https://clinicalexcellence.qld.gov.au/priority-areas/safety-and-quality/ryans-rule

It is an acknowledgement that you or your family understand your health best

The woman in the OP does not live in my state but she could still escalate her concerns especially if she is within the public health care system. Now I know I said earlier that we have a UHC but in reality it is a two tier system where people can opt to go “private”. In complex cases you are often better in the public system as there you have access to the “top” consultants and investigation resources

 

Actually there are some pretty effective treatments for migraines these days. Not 100% effective (what in life is except death) but still helpful for a large % of sufferers. Tinnitus? Don't know.