Venezuela opposition leader claims coup is under way – live news

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  1. Thingamabob

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    I think Carter was the best the U.S. has had since .......... ?
     
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    Roosevelt????
     
  3. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ... or George III. 8)
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you haven't noticed, the Soviet Union didn't die it moved here with its globalism, atheism, media brainwashing and politicized justice system.

    But that's okay, be happy. It's part of you now:



     
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    YOUR Sec of State says and even Jokes about the FACT that he
    "Lies, Cheats & Steals" and as director of the CIA, actually offered
    courses on how better to perfect those ARTS, if we can call them that.
    ......................
    And then without flinching YOU believe this [​IMG] POS [​IMG] when he throws you
    a Load regarding Maduro, against whom he & his cronies are in the midst
    .................................................................................................of engineering a Coup

    YOU might want to look
    up the concept of "Willful Ignorance" - Its consequences can be Dire
    & then ask yourself why would Maduro run with the Miltary firmly behind him
    ?
    .
     
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  7. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It boggles the mind that some can walk a straight line - without a flinch - through the dung not even pausing to clean their shoes or clear their noses.
     
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    As if you were under the impression that west point cadets are pure as the driven snow?

    Or that the CIA could never tell a lie?

    You must have led a sheltered life
     
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    I don't think anyone doubts that people tell lies. The problem we are having is that the CIA is employed to lie. Lying is the only thing they do. That is their job.

    Liar.jpg
     
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    So why do liberaks go berzerk when pompeo says something that is obviously true?
     
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    This article by
    gives an excellent account of the mistakes the US is making with respect to Venezuela
    -policy and intelligence failure eg believing Guaido would be able to get the will of the people and a successful coup - now on several occasions.
    - the lies they made throughout and continue to make
    - Pompeo's words affirming that this was a US operation
    - questions whether US intelligence was just stupid or like in 2003 this was deliberate false news
    - the ridiculousness of suggesting there were 25,000 Cuban military advisers in Venezuela with absolutely no proof
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    - the lies about Maduro intending on leaving and being stopped by Russia
    - the failed attempts to manipulate Maduro to act in a way which can justify military action
    -the putting on of sanctions against Foreign Minister Jorge Arreaza, suggesting he was some kind of extremist because he was making progress at the UN for a diplomatic, negotiated solution. (by the way he says he has only one bank account and it is in Venezuela so they are not going to be able to do anything to him. He also says the US tried to bribe him to be a traitor)

    and on and on https://consortiumnews.com/2019/05/01/venezuela-failed-coup-argues-for-new-approach/#comments

    Almost everything he says is to the point and strongly accurate - except for one thing. He still believes that the US should do a take over and regime change in Venezuela. He just thinks they should use cyber warfare. I went to look at the comments to see if anyone had spotted it. It is a new article and there were only 3 comments. The first called the US cowards. The last said correctly
    The middle one spoke of what I was looking for

     
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    Give me an example.
     
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    How is it that YOU discern TRUTH coming from the mouth of a person WHO
    ............................. admits to, and even offers courses in Habitually LIEING ?

    [​IMG] - [​IMG]

    The thing about all of this that I find a bit confusing is THIS -

    John Stockwell
    knows and reveals the FACT that the CIA Lies
    William Casey
    knows and seems proud of the FACT that the CIA Lies
    Pompeo knows and even laughs at the FACT that he & the CIA Lie
    I know and expound UPON the FACT that Pompeo and the CIA Lie
    Thingamabob is aware of the FACT that Pompeo & the CIA Lie
    Alexa
    knows & is aware of the FACT that US policy is covered in Lie
    You know seem aware & admit to the FACT that this POS & the CIA Lie -

    I dare say:
    that even most Americans know and are aware of the FACT that
    they are habitually Lied to by their Government and its Agencies

    YET - You and many Americans seem quick & ready to believe
    & support virtually any statement or allegation, that Justifies &
    S
    upport CRIMINAL ACTs perpetrated upon other peoples because,
    as they say - "It is in the Interest of The USof A"

    I would ASK - exactly WHO or WHAT is this USof A ? -
    Is it the bough & paid for Corporate Government that habitually Lies to YOU ?
    Lies to further THEIR interests, in order to achieve THEIR increasingly INSANE power
    and control goal of "Full Spectrum Dominance & Global Hegemony" ?

    Or is it YOU and the citizens of said country who blindly believe said Lies ?
    and allow youselves to be smeared in the Bood of innocents when those Lies
    that result in the Murder Mayhem & Horrible Atrocity ?

    WHAT IN HELL IS
    THE MATTER WITH YOU PEOPLE, HAVE YOU NO MORAL COMPASS ?


    "Those who can make you believe Absurdities can make

    ..................................................... you commit Atrocities - Voltaire
    ..................................................... [​IMG]
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    Are referring to the Pol Pot killing fields. Often wondered myself.
     
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    I asked you first
     
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    That being the same Genocidal Maniac Pol Pot that
    YOUR Psychopathic Goverment armed & supported ?

    YOU Sir -
    E
    AT, feed and 'burp' - upon that same table of Lies, spoken of by Harold Pinter,
    A
    table spread with the :icon_shithappens: Full & filthy RIPE Excrement :icon_shithappens: of the Lies that YOUR
    ...................................................................Government & its Agencies spread before YOU
    .................................................................... [​IMG]
    ...................................................................I highly recomend a change in diet
    .
     
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    So you do believe communism as died off. Notice I've never mentionned the soviet union...
     
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    I don't know how that can ever happen with the corporate controlled press. From what I gather, Bill Clinton was the one who removed the restrictions and allowed 6 corporations to buy up all the mainstream media - and don't believe for one second that they're not owned by the same people.

    This is all reminiscent of the Soviet Union. The first thing the Bolshevik's did to retain power for their own globalist intent, was to shut down the Tsar's free press. Now we have Julian Assange being persecuted for daring to publish information detrimental to the controlling 'factors' in Washington - even though he's not an American citizen.

    But then again they are gods and gods are only accountable to themselves.

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    I think you better get back to the drawing board, the Russian Federation is not communist. Almost everything is privately owned otherwise there wouldn't be any oligarchs.
     
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    A democracy can only succeed when the intent of politicians is to serve the people and that requires morality and dedication. Our Founding Fathers were seminarians and knew that without the morals implicit in Christianity, a democracy cannot work. We're seeing it now not only in our country, but in other nations as well.
     
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    You want me to tell you why someone has done something specific ..... without first telling me what it is they did? I thought you and I were having an honest discussion.
     
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    Again, I didn't mentionned russia at all. Are you tired of building strawman?
     
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    My guess--and it is only a guess--is that the US might become involved, militarily, in Venezuela's civil war. But it would not involve American boots on the ground. Rather, it would be only with cruise missiles, as support.

    As for Juan Guaido, his attempt at the overthrow of Nicolas Madura yesterday was unsuccessful--perhaps because of the fact that there was not sufficient backing from the military (only some of whom had defected)--but the struggle is not yet over. Far from it.

    Only those who have blinded themselves, with a deep hatred for all things capitalistic, could seriously believe that Maduro won the recent election; or that it was free and fair. (It was about as "free and fair" as the "elections" in the former USSR.)

    Guaido has been recognized as the legitimate president of Venezuela by some 54 counties, worldwide. He is opposed, however, by "Russia, China, Iran, Syria, and Cuba," according to Wikipedia.

    As I said, this is far from over. Only those who place wishful thinking ahead of reality could believe otherwise...
     
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    My guess--and it is only a guess--is that the US might become involved, militarily, in Venezuela's civil war. But it would not involve American boots on the ground. Rather, it would be only with cruise missiles, as support.

    As for Juan Guaido, his attempt at the overthrow of Nicolas Madura yesterday was unsuccessful--perhaps because of the fact that there was not sufficient backing from the military (only some of whom had defected)--but the struggle is not yet over. Far from it.

    Only those who have blinded themselves, with a deep hatred for all things capitalistic, could seriously believe that Maduro won the recent election; or that it was free and fair. (It was about as "free and fair" as the "elections" in the former USSR.)

    Guaido has been recognized as the legitimate president of Venezuela by some 54 counties, worldwide. (He actually took the oath of office on January 23 of this year.)

    He is opposed, however, by "Russia, China, Iran, Syria, and Cuba," according to Wikipedia.

    As I said, this is far from over. Only those who place wishful thinking ahead of reality could believe otherwise...
     
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    redundant.
     
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