Venezuelans Are Resilient Against The U.S. & Its Pupppet Opposition

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  1. tharock220

    tharock220 Well-Known Member

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    Venezuela is a perfect example of socialism running out of other people’s money. Government gave away everything yet produced nothing. Nationalized farms and factories are sitting idle, PDVSA claims the world’s largest oil reserves yet is in a production decline, and the state owned electric company is telling women not to blow dry their hair to save electricity.

    The only government owned industry actually operating is the media and theyre forced to show Maduro speaking day and night.
     
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    Quick, impose a coup, bloated warmonger, USA, before the citizenry go to the polls in April and make the fatal mistake of practicing democracy. Again.
     
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    Democracy? How is it democracy when Maduro has banned the two main opposition parties?
     
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    Jailed some criminals who were financed from abroad and intended to destabilise Chavismo at all costs, sure. Chavismo, it is, which the majority of Venezuelans support. The wrong kind of democracy for some, perhaps it's Maduro's explicit and ongoing invitation and assurance to all comers that elections will be fair, free, and internationally monitored which bothers them.
     
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    Sounds like an example of economic mismanagement to me. Obviously socialist policies can't work without good economic fundamentals to support them. Can't just borrow infinitely and expect to succeed. Well, unless you're the US, that is. Then infinite debt is apparently a real option.
     
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    The opposition to Maduro won a majority in the national assembly, so there goes your "majority support " theory. When that happened Maduro stripped all power from the national assembly and gave it to himself by way of an illegal emergency measure - illegal because only the national assembly has the constitutional power to enact such a measure. He also fired the entire supreme court and replaced them with his supporters - again totally unconstitutional. All powers of the national assembly have now been taken over by Maduro's hand-picked supreme court.
    He has not just locked up a few people. He has banned the two major opposition parties from participating in the up-coming election.
    Does this still sound like democracy to you?
     
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    Its an example that socialism doesn't work, even in a country with the world's largest oil reserves.
     
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    No, that's what propaganda looks like.
     
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    It is amazing that the opposition -- with all the aid it receives from abroad and with all the hardships Venezuelans are facing with the U.S.-imposed sanctions--- is unable to unseat Maduro. The Guatemalan government folded in 1954 and Chile folded on 9-11-1973. Chavismo endures. The opposition is in disarray. Divide et impera --- that is the way you smash reactionaries.

     
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    The U.S. has no business telling Venezuela what to do inside it's own borders. Just as it has it has no business telling ANY other country what to (or not to) do inside their own borders (assuming no major genocide is taking place there).

    I realize Neocons DESPISE this way of thinking and believe America should butt in wherever she wishes.

    Neocons...I believe they do more harm to America then all the terrorists in the world (combined) could ever realistically dream of doing.
     
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    With all of the illegal moves he has made Maduro has made himself dictator. Clearly he knows he can only cling to power by destroying democracy. This should not surprise anyone. There is a reason why socialism does not allow multiple parties. It is always a one party dictatorship.
     
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    The sanctions against Venezuela are not coming just from the US. The OAS has just called for more sanctions, and rightly so IMO since the present sanctions are a slap on the wrist.
    What is happening in Venezuela is not a genocide, but it is quite nasty. You believe we shouldn't care about what is happening to other people, but people do care about the suffering of others. Sometimes there is nothing we can do about it, but sometimes there is.

    Irwin Cotler, a former Canadian minister of justice serving on an OAS panel investigating alleged crimes against humanity in Venezuela, said it would report its findings next month.

    “We heard compelling witness testimony and we received documentary evidence of extrajudicial executions and widespread systematic attacks on civilians as a matter of state policy,” Cotler told the forum.

    He cited cases of torture, rape, and arbitrary detention.


    “We are witnessing a dismantling of democracy, an assault on the rule of law and on the independence of the judiciary,” he added.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...nezuela-targeting-oil-oas-chief-idUSKCN1G42BA
     
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    The dictator Maduro and previously Chavez continue to be elected. It's been over 6 years since I closed our Caracas office as the writing was on the wall. Yes, outside "auditors" have confirmed elections and were able to confirm what they were shown. Do you understand what that means?

    The major problem in Venezuela is cultural and sadly, an entire generation has been lost and it will take decades for a major shift in culture. If the people are unwilling to do that, then that is their choice and they deserve the state of affairs in which they find themselves. I do not believe that the USA should intervene at all given that VZ is a sovereign nation and the people must first take responsibility for what their past votes have wrought upon themselves. Then, they must also change their culture and only then could outside help, actually help.
     

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