Victory day in russia

I do not think so (about Trump). Sure, ME is full of religious fanatics. Why not then to leave them alone and allow them to do whatever they want to do to each other?

 

US can't leave the Middle East alone to stew in their hatred and bigotry for two reasons, they export their hate and their violence and secondly they won't leave Israel alone. So unfortunately the US has to stay engaged.

 

The last one is what counted the most...smehrtovay vis!

 

He was 16 years old.

 

Because their ignorant fanaticism is spreading around the world and creating problems in civilized communities everywhere. There is no religion uglier than Islam,,

 

lol...I've got shoes older than him. Closest that guy ever got to World War Two was watching the movies on the Hitler Channel

 

When did the Soviet Union cause 100 million deaths? Please educate me? As for the Soviet Union allowing people to leave, yes it did providing they paid Moscow the cost of their education, and Germany did. It paid 20 thousand for each German that wanted to leave.

 

If someone was in the SS they were war criminals regardless of whether they were German, Ukranian, Luthanian, Estonian, Latvian, Bosnian or Croatian. The German army was not, since they were conscripted and under orders.

 

Who were the Communists during the Cold War? Who was it who wanted too spread Communism throughout the world?

20,000 what? US Dollars?

Have you ever been behind the Iron Curtain?

 

What about the Russians? Were they involved at all? Would the guards at the Russian Gulags be considered war criminals, or those who ordered them to go there?

 

He's in his early nineties. What's so strange about that?

 

The communists were globalists and one world order freaks, kind of like what Washington is pushing on the world today, so it was one large prison but that is not what I asked. I'm just wondering where the 100 million deaths came from? I mean they couldn't be Russians since their population was about 160 million before WWI and they lost 10 million in that war, and 10 million more immigrated with the revolution.

Maybe you're thinking of China under Mao Tse Tsung. Russia probably lost around 25 million under Lenin and Stalin. That would make the 27 million that died in WWII one fourth of their population - which is the number the Russians give.

 

Of course the guards were criminals, they were no better than Nazis. I read a book once on Father Arseny who beat all odds and survived 33 years in the Gulag. The only reason he survived was that he had nursed one of the head criminals in the Gulag when he was sick, and he watched over him.

 

It was American dollars. Our government was paying 20,000 to Moscow for every Jew that immigrated to Israel - but Reagan put a stop to that - at least according to a small paragraph in the New York Times.

I have to laugh, I can't remember what I ate for lunch, but I can remember things I read forty years ago.

 

Germany went to war because it needed to feed its large population, and Ukraine and Western Russia have the best soil in the world. The plan was to ethnically cleanse the populations and push them to the Urals so the Germans can have their living space. It was a genocide. Most of the 27 million that died were civilians. The rest of Europe meant nothing to Germany - except maybe for the German populations in Austria and Rhineland.

It goes deeper than that. Russia's big mistake was Poland. They should have let go of it, because people were coming in through Poland from Germany with ideas from the Enlightenment that were alien to Russia. Communism had nothing to do with Russia, the ideology came from Karl Marx and he was a German Jew.

The Tsar had a free press and the propaganda and lies against him were rampant. Lenin was funded by bankers from NYC and London, and when WWI started the Kaisar sent Lenin to Saint Petersburg to disrupt the war effort. Little did Wilhelm know it would cost him his throne as well as his cousin Nicky, and Germany would end up in another war with Russia because of it.

 

Globalists indeed but there was also a source for this globalist push and much of it emanated from Russia, and was enforced by Russia. And of course it is nothing like the Americans did, today or ever.

There are a variety of sources but the the most respected and thoroughly documented (as much as possible) is The Black Book Of Communism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism

Yes, more communist evil but, if I recall, that numbered about 30 million deaths.

Yes, many Russians died as they spread their evil throughout Europe and the world.

Three Cheers for Ronald Reagan!

 

Yes, i read One Day In The Life of Ivan Denisovich. It was an Evil Empire.

 

I've never heard that excuse before. I supppose , because their population has grown, they'll again got to war some time soon.

That's what Hitler claimed anyway.

But the Germans didn't act on it, the Russians did.

There are always those who will commit evil, finance evil, and support evil, but will never call it evil.

 

Iraq

Ok, so you know only one time. That is not every time...

 

That one time made up for any others...)

 

Maybe early 70's

 

Yes they where, but soldiers police battalions is ~ 1/5 of manpower of the legion, and definitely not all of them was involved in burned earth tactic in anti partisan operation. So this spanish jurist offering collective responsibility in this case?

And so? This by itself is a war crime?

about ethnic cleansing, it's just lie. Police battalions was formed for guards duties to protect german communications and for anti partisan warfere, but many of them was involved in fight with RKKA on front line too. Einzacgrupe was main instrument for ethnic cleansing.

I can't see any crime here. You better as, why these Latvians volunteered to these battalions. historically Latvians was not in good relationship with germans, in the WW1 Latvian forces fight against germany invasion. How do you think, what has changed?

I can't tell about police regiments, but about 15. div it's just disinformation. In this period division was involved in positional battles on Russia-Latvia border. And after all, germans usually use against the partisan lighter units, not infantry divisions, which they needed on front.

And whats more interesting, main unit involved in this operation Fru¨lingsfest was Wermahts 201st Sicherungsdivision. So as i understand because of this all Wermaht soldiers are hardcore nazis and war criminals? Or russian brainwash machine did not tell you this by now, so you do not mehanicly repeat it?

This jurist is just incompetent. formally only on first mobilisation was choise, but it was formal choise which soon was canceled by germans. Ad if someone got to workforce, it dos not ment, that after some time he will not be transferred to the Legion.
And penalty for avoiding the mobilisation was death... It's strange to wach how some incompetent people sits on couch in safety and thinking, how someone on whose place they never had been, has to do something.

 

Eh, first, where did you take this number- 1/5 of the Legion? Second, even if it so, it is enough number to put a shadow on Latvian Legion.
Now you even claim that police batallions from Latvian Legion did not do any crime. Yes, they did, and there are many cases described in papers. They followed the orders of SS as it is known, and SS was recognized as a criminal organization by Nuremberg Tribunal, so all those who was involved in their activities.
The fact that apart of Latvian Legion also German military units were involved in Spring Festival does not make Latvian Legion innocent. In fact this is not the only operation where Latvian Legion showed its face. There are more facts decribed in this paper. I just took one.
Of course, this jurist as well as the authours of other papers to which he make references are incompetent. Only you are the only competent person here.
Of course, Latvians did not like the occupation of the country by the Red Army, but by the time Germany attacked USSR they were quite aware of the concentration camps that Nazis had built across Europe and where they killed people in gas chambers. So they had to take the right side which they did not do.
First you told that there was no choice, then you said that there was no choice after first mobilisation. But again, this is not true.
This is the book where it is written, that formation of Latvian SS was carried out on a voluntary basis, at least within the first 2 years of the occupation:
K. Kangeris, K., Closed’ Units of Latvian Police –Lettische Schutzmannschafts-Bataillone: Research Issues and Pre-History’, in V. Nollendorfs and E. Oberlander (eds.), The Hidden And Forbidden History Of Latvia Under Soviet And Nazi Occupations 1940–1991, Selected Research of the Commission of the Historians of Latvia, Vol. 14 (Riga: Institute of the History of Latvia, 2005) 104–121. This is a book edited now by Germans, and not by Spanish people. Are they also incompetent?

 

I did not ask, how soldiers could hide their past,i asked where did you get, that Latvian soldiers hided their past. And again, you just don't have an answer.

Why, because you said so?

You don't focus? Than what are you talking about here? At first you said, that MANY Latvian war criminals fled to US. When i asked you to bring up the names, you answer is that you don't focus on Latvian war criminals...

No they where. But what are you and other victims of Russia brain wash machine is trying to say here, or to be correct - repeat what has been told to you, is that there are collective responsibility not only for all soldiers who fought on german side, but to whole nations and states.

 

I think you are wrong. As for SS, it was found criminal organization by the international court at Nuremberg trials.

As you can see, there is no talk about some "responsibility" for the "whole nations and states".
SS was declared a criminal organization, and members of SS were declared criminals - with some exclusions, which, as far as I understand, the Latvian former SS-members do not belong to.