Visualizing gun deaths – Comparing the U.S. to rest of the world

we need foreigners who have societies where some people are called "untouchables" and worship beef on the hoof when people are malnutritioned to stop telling us what our rights should be. and the rate of gun violence and deaths caused by legal gun owners is rather small

 

Well, Congress likes to hand off and shirk it's own delegated powers and duties to the Courts, so they don't have to take a public stand on anything controversial any more. Plus, that leaves them more time in the afternoons to devote to soliciting bribes, oops, I mean 'campaign contributions' during the week. I mean, who wants to actually read all those bills and stuff when you can just hand it off to hacks operating the Federal Courts? It's annoying enough to have to take time to vote on the ones they pass now, after all.

 

We often celebrate the "rights" we have gained by our Origional Constitution but we have failed to accept and/or address any responsibility. Some accept military participation, some begrudgingly accept taxes. What we need to do is look at what has and has not worked, bite the bullet and own the responsibility of deciding collectively (2/3 majority) what to base taxation on what service is equitable and put it into a public referendum for constitutional change. The mechanics are right here.

 

Any State may exploit that "political gambit" to advance their Cause.

 

Intelligent discussion usually has facts involved and actual data. Like for instance when you discuss " gun grabbing" you might want to provide actual data about how many guns have actually been "grabbed".

Of course you will try to divert by finding the few examples of fringe gun control advocates who do advocate " gun grabbing" but that really has no relevance to a reasoned discussion any more than the fringe that advocates open carry in schools, airports, etc represents the majority of gun owners. Using the extremes as representative of the majority is not really part of an intelligent discussion on either side.

 

Or in the case of Washington and Jefferson to use against American citizens who oppose exorbitant Federal taxes and tariffs on them. 'Conservatives' were all for gun control until they were against it, and are now trying to shove that genie back into the bottle.

 

Exactly; why do gun lovers never claim to love their republic more than any Vandal imitators?

 

General welfare. Numerous court rulings. Read DC v heller

 

The usa citizens surely have a strong culture of self defense and defense of the property which is rarely seen among other populations today. It is probably an heritage of the times of the cowboys and colonizations, when people had to defend or die, always have a gun avaiable.

 

Intentional Homicide Rate:

India: 3.5 per 100,000
United States: 4.7 per 100,000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

 

wrong-that is not an enumerated power. You fail. its based on a mutation of the commerce clause

 

Article 1, Section 8 regarding wellness of regulation for the Militia of the United States.

 

General welfare is an enumerated power.

 

wrong, it is not. and if it is what is the limit

its all about a taxing authority

find me a federal gun control law based on that

 

Nope it is the general authority for the general power, effected by the social Power to Tax.

 

as usual that post of yours makes no sense

is not responsive

and does to the English Language what Tomas De Torquemada did to Jews and Heretics in Isabellan Spain

 

only protestants and renegades, say that.

 

History is long. Never is an eternity away. Eventually even the US will become civilized.

 

that is a rather enigmatic and needs to be further explained

 

Amazing. 645 posts on a subject that was beaten to death before the thread was started. But this ain't the last time it will happen, and no, you still can't have my guns.

 

some on the left don't mind establishing a think tank in Carthage, merely to "harass the right".

 

Nothing complex. Glorification of violence will not last forever. Not in our life times, but some time, humanity will grow up and stop celebrating weapons of destruction.

 

some on the left don't mind just checking for honest Injeun contingents on the right.

 

only a small group glorifies violence. But violence is a tool that sometimes is the only way to solve a problem

I celebrate the freedom to have all the tools I can possibly have to deal with as many problems as possible.

as long as there as scum bags in our society, I will choose to be armed

and even if all the pillow headed Utopians could waive their magical wands and get rid of all violence, crime and scum bags, I'd still keep my guns because i enjoy the shooting sports.

 

Enjoy. What do those shooting sports include? If you are harvesting deer and other creatures that need harvesting because you have already slaughtered all the predators that used to keep them in check, thank you. I have farm land that needs protection, but you will have to agree to shoot does, not trophy hunt, If you are shooting the predators that are already endangered, then I want even the weapons you are using for that removed. Target shoot as much as you wish, so long as the targets are inanimate.