Voter ID Rules Fail Court Tests Across Country

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  1. Max Frost

    Max Frost New Member

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    It was admitted that this was not about fraud. The only liars in all of this have been the republicans and it has been a very transparent lie. It's all about voter suppresion and this guy was saying they had it done and Romney would now win. The court stopped that.
    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012...charges-aim-to-keeping-democrats-from-voting/

    "GOP's fictional voter fraud charges aim to keep Democrats from voting"

    "At a recent meeting of the Pennsylvania GOP State Committee, the top Republican in the state House of Representatives, Mike Turzai, declared that a new requirement for voters to show identification with a photograph on it “is going to allow Gov. [Mitt] Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania.” He drew wild applause from Republicans in the crowd.

    The new law being referred to won approval under the state’s Republican Governor Tom Corbett and the GOP majority in the state legislature.

    The result is that 9.2 percent of the state’s 8.2 million voters are suddenly at risk of losing their right to vote. Eighteen percent of the registered voters in Philadelphia do not have government issued photographic identification.

    That means they won’t be able to vote.

    According to a July report from the Pennsylvania Secretary of the Commonwealth, more than 758,000 voters statewide do not have the necessary photo identification cards issued by the State Department of Transportation. President Obama won the state by about 600,000 votes in 2008.

    A suit to block the new law – by the American Civil Liberties Union – has been filed on behalf of a 93-year-old great grandmother who has voted in nearly every election for the past 60 years but who is unable to obtain the photo ID necessary for her to vote this year.

    In response to the ACLU suit Pennsylvania officials admitted in court documents that they do not have one shred of evidence of significant voter fraud in the state.

    “There have been no investigations of prosecutions of in-person voter fraud in Pennsylvania; and the parties do not have direct personal knowledge of any such investigations or prosecutions in other states,” according to official state papers sent to the court.

    But when Pennsylvania’s Republican made the case for the new law they did not say that. They instead followed a script being used by Republicans nationally and claimed that the identification laws are necessary to prevent voter fraud.

    Let me offer an analogy:

    What is going on here is that the GOP is yelling ‘Fire’ when there is no fire. Their goal is to reduce the number of Democrats casting ballots in the November election. The GOP has created a fictional controversy about voter fraud to hide the reality of efforts to suppress likely Democratic voters.

    In this fall’s presidential election the elimination of a few thousand Democrats from voting booths could determine which candidate gets the Keystone State’s 20 electoral votes and the potentially the presidency."
     
  2. JIMV

    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And you a mere subject..Now have we finished on the playground.
     
  3. Craftsman

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    I doubt very much you are done in idiotville, I suspect you live there full time.
     
  4. Craftsman

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    The GOP knows the only way to win and to reach their goal of total domination is to lie, cheat and steal. And they don't care about the Constitution or freedom, they only care about the party and power.
    Our rights are in their way and they will remove our rights. They have a lot of morons brainwashed into supporting them, no matter what. Several have posted here, and the GOP knows they can get away with as long as there are enough idiots to swallow their crap.
    Turns out, there just might be enough total imbeciles to let them get away with it.
     
  5. ragin cajun

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    Totally wrong, but nice recitation of the dem talking points. No one in the GOP wants to keep people from voting, that is a bogus claim. What we want is a legitimate accurate vote.

    You guys are making a mountain out of a molehill on this. The number of US citizens who do not have some form of picture ID is tiny, and those people can get one free. This is non issue, unless your real agenda is to find ways for illegals, dead people, and cartoon characters to vote.
     
  6. Max Frost

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    Ragin I'm sorry but the post above by me shows just the opposite. The republicans admitted they had no evidence of any fraud in PA. And also the idea that ID's are free is also not true. $25 bucks for one in Jersey for example. That may not sound like much to you but for someone on a fixed income it very well could mean they sacrifice a basic to pay that.
    And again we have proven this was all about blocking some americans from voting.
     
  7. ragin cajun

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    No, its not about blocking "some americans" from voting. That is just a foolish statement. 99.999% of americans have some form of photo ID. This is much ado about nothing, unless your true motive is to allow illegals, dead people, and animals to vote---is that it?
     
  8. Max Frost

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    From the story I posted above.

    "The result is that 9.2 percent of the state’s 8.2 million voters are suddenly at risk of losing their right to vote. Eighteen percent of the registered voters in Philadelphia do not have government issued photographic identification."

    You can keep saying whatever you want but the truth is clear.
     
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    Without a voter ID Law......how would you prove impersonation?

    See what a complete fraud and utter lie Liberalism is?
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  10. LibertyRansom

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    Once again if there was wide spread voter impersonation, like telling the poll attendant that you're your neighbor, I'm certain someone would notice, don't you? If you went to the polls and your name was already crossed off, that wouldn't get reported? Would you need ID to figure out something was wrong?
     
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    [video=youtube;BM1F92uPHG0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM1F92uPHG0[/video]

    Who exactly is going to notice?
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    ragin cajun New Member

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    Yes, it would get reported, but the fraudulent vote would have been cast and the legitimate voter would not be able to vote.
     
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    I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that if I went to my polling station and my name was aready crossed off the poll worker would notice. Then I would take note of it and be p1ssed!! I would report it.
     
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    I agree but reported cases of impersonation fraud add up to 10 in 12 years, 1 in 15 million voters. That's hardly a pandemic.
     
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    I laugh every time the right wing morons post that video, it proves nothing but somehow they alwasy think if it's on youtube, it's true and valid, LOL!
     
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    99% of the actual vote fraud goes on with the absentee ballots. And the Republican voter ID crusade does zilch about that. The Republicans are lying when they claim to care about vote fraud. If they cared, they'd go after the actual vote fraud, instead of deliberately ignoring it.

    It's not the person who is supposedly getting the absentee ballot who does the fraud. It's the dominant husband who fills out the votes for the whole family, the caregiver who fills out their own vote for an elderly person, the employer who demands his employees fill out their ballots his way, the thief who steals it from the mailbox, the political shyster who arranges for hundreds of blank absentee ballots to come his way.

    And the Republicans care nothing about that fraud. Quite the contrary. That fraud tends to aid them, so Republicans love the absentee ballot fraud.
     

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