Voter Supression Law Gets Green Light

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  1. dujac

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    even so, there were nearly fifty years of voting without id laws, after that
     
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    What happens when they don't have transportation to polling places that are too far and there is no place to park when they get there? Why did some of these polling places relocate to make it harder? And why all of a sudden the day to vote is the first Tuesday in November when we have always had Sunday voting, especially for the elderly, and early voting? How does that stop voter ID fraud? You have yet to answer that question. You are dodging it, because you have no answer. Telling me that election day is the first Tuesday in November does not address the new voter suppression laws.
     
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    The argument the right has, is without any footing. There is absolutely no justifiable reason to implement new laws that make it harder for others to vote. Now we know elections have been totally rigged against the voter. And this is the twenty first century when this is all happening.
     
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    Illegal aliens can vote under their own names if they want to. If they need a driver's license all they have to do is go get one. Then they can register to vote. Of course it will be illegal for them to vote but it's perfectly legal, and even required in some instances, for them to have a legitimate driver's license. Considering the low voter turnouts they should probably get a high-five for voting since most Americans simply don't want to vote.
     
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    From a practical matter it's probably best to vote on the first Tuesday in November if you want your vote counted. They generally don't count other votes unless the race is very close. And if you're a Dem in a Red State you don't have to vote for the Dem President candidate because your vote won't help him get elected. Of course you should always vote for the other candidates because they need your vote.
     
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    That still answers none of the questions I asked. Telling me your opinion about voting on the first Tuesday does not answer the question of voter ID fraud. How does eliminating Sunday voting stop voter ID fraud?
     
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    Taxis, Buses, dog sleds...
     
  8. dujac

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    it's called voter suppression and it's unconstitutional
     
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    Well, that is what the democratic community organizers want us to believe. Us real Americans know its BS. Wanna vote? Get and ID card, go register, then go vote. So simple even Obama voters can do it.
     
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    i got my driver's license when i was 15 years old and was registered to vote nearly 40 years ago

    of course you can't face up to what republican leaders have already admitted

    no wonder y'all keep losing

    [video=youtube;8GBAsFwPglw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GBAsFwPglw[/video]
     
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    Establishment republicans? Thpppppt...bring on the real Americans.
     
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    here's how they respond:

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    A trite cartoon? Please, I expect more. That cartoon is about 'establishment republicans', not real Americans. But then I realize that I am speaking with Obama voters that are prone to being informed by the shallow and mundane while thinking they are reading depth and understanding vitality.
     
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    it's completely accurate, here's the evidence

    but, of course you won't look at it

    [video=youtube;9oP9ZqcDv5Y]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oP9ZqcDv5Y[/video]
     
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    Good god its 55 minutes long LOL. Of course no one is going to sit down and watch 55 minutes of " evidence" .
     
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    You think I am "Tea party"? No, I am a real American and I realize that neither Democrat or Republican party represents me or you and they violate their oaths of office every fricking day as well as the constitution because they want power and control. I do agree with some of the comments in the video, but I do not, have not, and will not identify with the Tea Party. They have set themselves up in the way they organized themselves for ridecule and appearing like fringe kooks. Do I believe in the constitution? Yes! Do I believe in the free market? Yes! Do I think that corporations and Unions should have the ability to donate to political campaigns, yes, but what has happened is that those donations have craeted a kind of 'corporate slavery' where politicians are wholly own subsidearies of their donars. But Obama voters in no way possess the intellectual acuity required to understand such things. I express it because I have actual hope, not the phoney hope supplied by Comrade President Imam Soetoro.
     
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    you're defending the same tactics they do
     
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    what a surprise


    Senator: State Not Moving to Make Voter IDs Available

    by Terri Langford - Sept. 10, 2014 7

    More than a week ago, Texas Senate Democrats put Texas Secretary of State Nandita Berry on notice: They wanted her office to get more mobile units on Texas streets to give voters without an acceptable photo ID a chance to get one before November's election.

    One week later, there's been no movement to do so, says state Sen. Kirk Watson, D-Austin.

    The problem, he says, is that there are not one but two state agencies in charge of putting more mobile units out in the community. The Secretary of State's office (SOS), which includes voter registration, has to coordinate where the mobile units will go. The Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS) actually owns the mobile units which can issue the new Texas election identification certificates, or EICs.

    After trying to get the two entitites to agree on how to do it — and to do it quickly — Watson said late Tuesday that it "appears to me it is a breakdown on both ends."

    Under the state's voter ID law, residents must present an acceptable form of photo identification for their vote to be counted. Acceptable photo IDs include Texas driver’s licenses or Texas ID cards that have not been expired for more than 60 days at the time of voting, U.S. passports, or military or U.S. citizenship certificates with photos.


    But Texas residents who do not have those forms of identification can obtain an EIC from DPS by presenting documentation — such as a birth certificate — that proves U.S. citizenship and identity. They must also have a valid voter registration card.

    DPS spokesman Tom Vinger said his agency "continues to work closely with SOS regarding EICs" but would not answer questions as to why no dates have been set up for the mobile units to provide EICs in September. "Feel free to call the Secretary of State’s Office for information related to this issue as well," he added.

    Alicia Pierce, spokeswoman for the Secretary of State, said the DPS mobile units will be in Floresville, southeast of San Antonio, on Oct. 10 and 11 to issue EICs. But she said scheduling was done before the senators sent their letter. Nothing has been scheduled for September yet, she said, but dates were in the process of being "finalized." Once that happens, she said the locations of the DPS mobile units issuing voter IDs will be posted at votetexas.gov.

    So far, only 279 EICs have been issued. A federal trial over the state's voter ID law, now underway in Corpus Christi, claims that as many as 787,000 people in Texas are eligible to vote but cannot because they do not have proper photo ID.

    Enter Watson and the Senate Democratic Caucus. They fired off a letter last week expressing their concerns that Texans may not know how to navigate the bureaucracy in time to get an ID that will allow them to vote this year.

    "We are especially concerned that registered voters who lack the appropriate identification documents will be prohibited from voting this November," according to the caucus' letter, signed by Watson and nine other senators: John Whitmire, Rodney Ellis, Carlos Uresti, Judith Zaffirini, Eddie Lucio Jr., Royce West, Juan "Chuy" Hinojosa, Sylvia Garcia and Jose Rodriguez.

    "It appears this is some evidence of how little the state really did care in making it easy for people to vote," Watson said in an interview. "And if the voter ID bill was really not meant to make it harder for people to vote you, would hope that the state agency responsible for voting and the state agency responsible for providing the identification so people could vote would work together seamlessely as opposed to what it appears."

    http://www.texastribune.org/2014/09/10/senator-says-sos-dps-not-moving-make-voter-ids-ava/
     
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    Suppress the vote !
     
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    Because it isn't about ID. It's about voter suppression. They only mention ID as the one thing they are focused on. That isn't true. They also put into the mix ending Sunday voting, reducing early voting, eliminating same day registration, closing polls early, relocating polls away from minority areas, and having zero parking space, when or if they get there. They also are making it harder for students by making them get government ID's, and they eliminated pre-registration for 16 and 17 year old's. These new laws have nothing to do with eliminating voter fraud. And that is the monkey that you need to understand. Not ID! The ID is the front for getting all these other laws in place, which do real harm to voters and their ability to vote. That is what they aren't going to tell you. The elections have officially been rigged.
     
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    Talk about nonsense!
     
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    No ID ? No Vote ! Get rid of em !
     
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    i'll go with the constitution, instead of fascist tactics like getting rid of them
     
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    Go for it ! Join the losing team! Soon we shall slowly phase out all of the lazy bums who can not even figure out how to get an ID.
     
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    you might want to think about who won the last two presidential elections

    and what part of the population is growing the fastest
     

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