WALSH: George Floyd Bodycam Footage Is Out. We Weren't Told The Full Truth.

Sounds super bad.

 

So your take is that he just happened to die while officers were sitting on his neck ?

 

No, that's your take.

Keep up.

My take is that his long criminal history, obvious lethal doses and combinations of doses of drugs, and bystander suggestion of mental illness, and just really bad decision making is what killed him.

The cops couldn't have been more patient with this man.

 

The officer kept his knee, with his FULL weight, on him for almost 10 minutes. Strangulating his brain of blood, and most of it while he was telling them he couldn't breath, and for 4 minutes AFTER one officer told the other that they had no pulse on him.

FTR, I'm not defending him, or his actions. But this isn't Judge Dredd, as the police are not, and cannot be judge jury and especially executioner. I dont think anyone is defending what he did, nor how he acted. But we are chiding the actions that led to his death. This is america, not some third world country.

 

You have no idea how much weight he had on him for how long. You're just making stuff up, as usual, and continuing to lose each point you try to manufacture.

You know, like saying "I can't breathe" for 4 minutes, which requires you to be able to inhale to say "I can't breathe". Irony.

The police were EXCEEDINGLY patient with this man. They did everything they could to deescalate the situation and tolerated his bullshit with the patience of saints.

The only reason George Floyd is dead is because he had a long criminal history, he had lethal doses of drugs in his system, was a habitual drug user, and resisted his arrest.

 

well if you are going to plagiarize me at least get it right.

 

The only reason George Floyd is dead is because the cop had a long criminal history, he was in thousands of dollars debt, was a habitual tax fraudster, and brutally killed Mr Floyd likely looking for a lawsuit to pay off his massive debt problem.

 

Yeah that makes sense.

I mean if you're a broke cop the best way to get out of debt is start killing people on camera, according to you.

That's a brilliant analysis.

 

the last act of a desperate man, makes perfect sense.

 

I can tell by the responses in this thread.

 

Wink.

 

It tells me it is likely biased in the family's favor, just as much as the medical examiner's one is probably biased in the police department's favor. The truth is likely in the middle.

 

Yeah, but why do you specifically mention heart attack?

 

Because of the fentanyl and he complained about breathing problems from the start.

 

FFS, he had enough on him to KILL him. We KNOW he had that much weigh on him.

Oh dear lord. Strangulation of BLOOD to the brain is what killed him. Breathing to his lungs allowed him to talk. Do they teach basic anatomy in school anymore ? Strangulate the blood to the brain by blocking the carotid artery, causes the brain to tell the body it's not getting enough oxygen, the heart starts beating faster to get that blood to the brain, the heart beating faster causes "cardiopulmonary arrest". 2+2=4

I never debated that they weren't ? It wasn't about the arrest, or about what he did. It's about how they held him down and slowly killed him. THAT did not need to happen. Thats why they are charged with 2nd degree murder

George Floyd was a criminal. He was not the best of our society. But form some reason for the right wing in this country, thats justification to kill him ?

 

You don't know that, you can't tell it from the footage, I suspect at trial the officer will say he eased off the pressure repeatedly. Floyd died from his own actions.
Welcome to the backlash.

 

Which will still exonerate the police. The choke hold would not have killed an ordinary person as we'll see when they demonstrate it in court, it was Floyd's underlying health problems and drug addiction which killed him.

 

You don't know anything. None of the 3 autopsies came to the same conclusion.

I guess you can add remote viewer coroner to your imaginary skill set.

Yes they still taught anatomy when I was in school. I don't think it's in the Democrat curriculum now though.

I mean you can sit there and attempt to tell us you know which of the 3 autopsies is right because you can evaluate how much pressure was applied, and where, and how long from watching a video....but that would just make you a typical leftist.

The man had enough drugs in his system to kill an elephant, and that's just something you're not going to be able to get away from. Period T.

 

Wouldn't the autopsy have determined that it was a heart attack?

 

Directly from the autopsy.

No injury to the next or larnyx. No head injuries. No facial injuries. No chest injuries. No injuries to posterior and lateral neck, shoulders, back, flanks and buttocks.


George Floyd 20-3700 Page 2 III.

No life-threatening injuries identified A.

No facial, oral mucosal, or conjunctival petechiae B.

No injuries of anterior muscles of neck or laryngeal structures C.

No scalp soft tissue, skull, or brain injuries D.

No chest wall soft tissue injuries, rib fractures (other than a single rib fracture from CPR), vertebral column injuries, or visceral injuries E.

Incision and subcutaneous dissection of posterior and lateral neck, shoulders, back, flanks, and buttocks negative for occult trauma

What he did have:

A. Enough drugs to kill an elephant

Blood drug and novel psychoactive substances screens: 1.

Fentanyl 11 ng/mL 2.

Norfentanyl 5.6 ng/mL 3.

4-ANPP 0.65 ng/mL 4.

Methamphetamine 19 ng/mL 5.

11-Hydroxy Delta-9 THC 1.2 ng/mL; Delta-9 Carboxy THC 42 ng/mL; Delta-9 THC 2.9 ng/mL

Urine drug screen: presumptive positive for cannabinoids, amphetamines, and fentanyl/metabolite D.

Urine drug screen confirmation: morphine (free) 86 ng/mL

A laundry list of diseases and illnesses:

Natural diseases A.

Arteriosclerotic heart disease, multifocal, severe B.

Hypertensive heart disease 1.

Cardiomegaly (540 g) with mild biventricular dilatation 2.

Clinical history of hypertension C.

Left pelvic tumor (incidental, see microscopic description)

Covid 19

Sickle cell

 

I'm afraid autopsies (and forensic evidence generally) are not as conclusive as they are portrayed on TV, (the CSI effect) especially in a non trauma case such as this. People tend to die from a variety of factors rather than just one as the Eric Garner case proves.

 

I see a lot of good points on both sides, kneeling on his neck for 9 mins, really? But powerful drugs in his system and very uncooperative.

One thing I have not seen throughout the last few weeks regarding this incident: racism.

 

Yeah, but what else is there to go on?

 

Yeah, so nothing about a heart attack then.

 

Sure, other than the multiple severe heart conditions on top of at least two drugs at lethal doses in his system.

I mean other than that I got nuthin.