WALSH: George Floyd Bodycam Footage Is Out. We Weren't Told The Full Truth.

Then go about actually demonstrating this fact, conclusively, beyond all reasonable doubt. Demonstrate the confirmed evidence that shows this was indeed the case, and not the hyperbolic claim on the part of yourself. The autopsy report shows no evidence of such occurring.

 

So . . . medical scienc is political? How about the official autopsy being the legitimate one and the family bought and paid for one with a blatant agenda being the result of a greedy quack?

 

The political left's political narrative in regards to this case is falling apart -- as per tradition, from Michael Brown to Freddie Gray -- and so they are doubling down on what has already been adequately debunked by available evidence. All that is lacking on their side at this point is sitting president Barack Obama trying to poison a prospective jury pool and intimidate a judge in advance by stating to the nation, "If I Had a son he would look like . . . "

 

What! Their lawyer doesn't evoke a feeling of warm trust with you?

 

BLM is done with Floyd. He was just convenient to their narrative at the moment. They are now desperately hoping for another black sacrificial blood offering with limited body cam evidence but it needs to be by a white cop and it’s frustrating that they have no one as Americans are losing interest in the protests.

 

That was a fair and perfectly sound assessment. It is precisely what happened and exactly what all this deliberately created violence and destruction by the radical Left was all about.

 

Thank you. Part of me wonders why Biden would choose the “top cop” to be his running mate if he doesn’t intend to put an end to the violence as it would be embarrassing to his administration. The US Democrats were not shy about using violent force to put down protests in the late 1960s.

 

What hyperbolic claim ? Its in the damn report.

Your claim is because the report doesn't literally say "because his knee was on his neck, he cut off the blood to the brain which in turn caused the heart to try to compensate which in turn......." is laughable. Thats NOT what autopsies are for. They are for the medical facts of how someone died, not what the causes were. And the autopsy clearly states that he died of a cardiac event (both of them). The idea that he just coincidentally happened to have a heart attack while an officer stood on his neck for 10 minutes is laughable.

 

What "imaginary" skill set. Its in all of the autopsies.

But in typical righty fashion, you claim everyone else is making assumptions, but not you. You would rather stand on political belief than what your lying eyes see.

And when the officers go to trial the right will claim it a leftie conspiracy.

 

The report was read in its fullest, and at absolutely no point is any mention made of the law enforcement officer in question, applying his full body weight down on George Floyd. That is nothing more than the assumption on the part of yourself, devoid of any actual evidence.

 

QWell, that, and the VIDEO.....

 

Which does not show anything in the way of evidence to prove the law enforcement officer in question was truly pressing his full body weight down onto George Floyd at the time. Thus it is nothing more than the assumption on the part of yourself, devoid of evidence.

 

No.

What's in the autopsies is that there was no damage to his neck tissues, no capillary hemorrhaging, larynx damage, or anywhere else.

What is in there is fatal doses of multiple drugs and five or so serious heart conditions, covid and sickle cell.

 

We'll see. This has not been proven yet, one way or the other. I'm keeping an open mind.

 

Medical science is not political, but individuals exercising it can be, both the ones doing the autopsy for the plaintiffs, and the ones doing the autopsy for the defendants. You're saying "official autopsy" like the fact that it is "official" somehow magically makes it unbiased or more reliable. The official autopsy can perfectly be very biased, since the medical examiner is a public employee in close contact with and being paid by the same sources that manage and pay for the police department, and often medical examiners and cops are buddies. So, a medical examiner might think "if I don't find something favorable to the cops they will shun and hate me and I may even get fired."

An autopsy done for academic reasons in an university hospital, for example, might be more of the unbiased medical science you're talking about. Autopsies done by the prosecuting apparatus and done by the defending apparatus, obviously are not bias-proof.

On the other hand, your idea of "greedy quack" may be a bit overblown. These experts are paid, sure, because they are doing work. They fly in, check into a hotel, go and perform the autopsy, analyse the macroscopic pieces, collect material, analyze the slides under the microscope. They are working, for hours and actually days. Why in the hell shouldn't they be paid, and why being paid for work is somehow the equivalent of greedy quackery?

Don't you think that the family might be suspicious of a biased "official autopsy" and might want to double check the result, with their own experts? If this situation had happened to a family member of yours, I'm sure you'd want the same thing.

Do you know who did the autopsy for the family? Two very famous doctors with very big reputations. One, the former chief medical examiner for New York City (likely a hundred times more experienced than the local medical examiner); the other one, a professor at the University of Michigan School of Medicine (one of our finest medical schools), head of their forensic department. If anything, maybe they were much more skilled and much more experienced than the local ME, and I'm sure in trial they will be able to demonstrate WHY they reached their conclusions, looking at macroscopic and microscopic evidence.

I could give you the details of how asphyxia can be spotted in autopsies and the main types of causes, and how they look different including in microscopic terms. It would be boring (since you're probably not a medical specialist). I can if you ask me to, but as of now let's just say: there are characteristics of the dead lung tissue that do betray the cause of death if it is asphyxia. So, if the pathologists hired by the family found more and better evidence, this will come out in trial, will be refuted by the defendant's lawyers, etc. Then the jury will decide who made most sense and who presented the best evidence.

So, we'll see. Don't assume it's all clear cut and all definitive just because there is an "official" autopsy. The other one, done by the family, is valid and admissable evidence too and will be part of the trial just as much as the "official" one.

 

Didn't stand, knelt and yes, most people would be fine with that as I'm sure we'll see demonstrated at the trial. Floyd's heart attack was undoubtedly triggered by him resisting lawful arrest but then that was his choice as was his drug taking.

 

reparations, entitlement? It's the same reason they are allowed to burn and loot.

 

Yeah, because they used 3 cops to hold him down, but they didn't need to use any weight against him

Your embarrassing yourself

The cop on his neck literally has both knees on him. Unless he can levitate, thats his whole body

 

Vman, I can strangle your brain of blood with two fingers on your carotid. They teach that in many different martial arts. THAT is how you strangulate the brain of blood. It doesn't require must pressure at all, therefore damage would not be present. The autopsy shows that he wasn't getting blood tot he brain, and 2+2=4

 

The officer had both knees on him.

 

Without leaving a single bruise in the process that was found on the autopsy? Does the law enforcement officer in question truly look intelligent enough to go about applying his full body weight to a suspect over a surface area the size of a human knee, without leaving any physical evidence behind that would be found by the coroner?

 

Bruising cant take place when the blood stops flowing

 

Bruising can occur even postmortem, long after the blood has ceased flowing because the heart has ceased bumping.

 

They also teach it in USMC LINE training. Well, more where to stab you than to choke you out.

Really.

Where does the autopsy in the OP say that.

 

So please explain to us how kneeling on the back of his neck placed pressure on his carotid artery, which is located on the front of the neck.

Seems you don't have much martial arts training, as you'd know the pressure would have to be applied to the front right of the middle of the neck, either via a sleeper hold or using your thumb to press, and your fingers to dig into the windpipe in a choke.