Was the Big Bang actually an "In the beginning"...

You can educate yourself on Hebrew if you would like. The first word has a grammatical error so here are some options:
http://www.rebjeff.com/blog/bere(*)(*)(*)(*)-in-the-beginning-of-what

https://www.jtsa.edu/prebuilt/ParashahArchives/jpstext/bere(*)(*)(*)(*).shtml

Actually type it into Davka and see what happens.

 

Both of your links are Error messages. Davka's lexicon isn't complete - by its own admission - and you didn't provide a search link.

I think you're one of those posters that can't admit error. I'm going to show you that "בְּרֵאשִׁית, בָּרָא אֱלֹהִים " truly is "In the beginning," so pay attention.

While there are many versions of the Bible, the oldest and most accurate is the KJV. The Hebrew wording in the Bible has been systematically studied over the centuries and in the 1800s a complete lexicon was put together. It's called the Strong's Concordance and it's the considered the most reliable lexicon of the ancient Hebrew. The Concordance does not have any bias - it's simply a studious lexicon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strong's_Concordance

So, when we research the last Hebrew word in your post,"בְּרֵאשִׁית," we find that the original Hebrew transliterated term is Re'shiyth, which meant (at the time the Torah was written), one of the following terms, "a: beginning, b: first, c: chief, d: choice part."

http://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/kjv/reshiyth.html

I know you're being obtuse because you're in over your head on this one - but - there it is.

 

No I am right and I you are wrong and modern Jewish religious scholars and Hebrew scholars agree with me.
That is a fact.
There is an error in the first line of the Torah.......I know this because I teach this stuff....all the time.
http://www.rebjeff.com/blog/bere(*)(*)(*)(*)-in-the-beginning-of-what trying the link again

Your links are Christian links so I will simply dismiss them because they even use the inaccurate term Old Testament.

 

There is this too

http://www.religioustolerance.org/crebegin.htm

http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/b-hebrew/2000-August/008162.html

 

[video=youtube;ReV0nCuObcs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReV0nCuObcs[/video]

 

The Navajo also have a creation story that involves a beginning of the universe and floods and plant life coming before a pair of humans ... I like their story better - so I can fit the story into the Big Bang hypothesis and be comfortable that their story is indeed the correct one.

Prove me wrong.

Seems about every culture has a "in the beginning," story. One certainty about all these religions is that they are geo-centric (they all started out in a very confined geographic location and either spread with military conquests or died out when they were conquered. In the end, the creation story attached to the strongest military became dominant.

I always found it interesting that a "God" would be confined by geography.

 

The Concordance is not Christian. If you "teach this stuff all the time," you would know that.

Now, I'm convinced that you're talking out of your nether region because a true teacher would have put forth what they thought the wording said and given real links to proof.

I'm done with you. You're a poser.

 

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0101.htm

א בְּרֵאשִׁית, בָּרָא אֱלֹהִים, אֵת הַשָּׁמַיִם, וְאֵת הָאָרֶץ." 1" translates to "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."

 

And that is not an accurate translation as I have pointed out.

 

By its very name and definition, The Big Bang was an explosion which, in turn, is defined as the "rapid increase in volume and release of energy in an extreme manner." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosion

If there was nothing then the Big Bang could not have occurred as scientists theorize. Therefore, there had to be some extra-Universe force keeping that matter from exploding until (maybe by some catalyst or outer force) until pressure built up enough to cause the Big Bang.

 

No.
But a Compass does.

 

So you're saying that the dead Sea Scrolls say something different?

I don't think so.

 

By "nothing," people mean Space/time did not exist.

Energy did exist.
Energy had to be the source of the matter which was transformed from energy.

 

Then why does the Jewish Old Testament still use it??

Genesis 1 Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)

Parashah 1: B’resheet (In the beginning) 1:1–6:8
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

 

It isn't the one singular individual Unconscious mind, though.

It is what Freud and Jung called the COLLECTIVE unconscious mind of all humanity.
This is the sum of all the individual minds together.

Together, they all are the Good Shepherd which watches over humanity all the time, without a break or disconnect, and since man evolved starting at least 200,000 years ago for our species and maybe before.
It is a mind outside of ourselves, like a spirit force, one which even talks to us through our own Unconscious mind.
It is the full knowledge of what we all really know together.

It knows things which are true, even when only one person may have understood things we did not individually and consciously find out until today.
It is an experiential source for what has been true for hundreds of thousands of years.

Others believe in this because the Bible explains it, but does not directly say where this eternal life exists for us all, nor that it is a sum of all our minds.

 

OK so energy existed. What caused it to result in a Big Bang?

 

Well, it might be true, but how would we know? It's hard to tell.

If it is true, such a spirit force might be bigger and more broad in scope than even you have described it.

But, it might also be different than you had hoped for. Like maybe even a fly is in on it, and contributes to the pool of knowledge. Hey, you never know.

 

what does that have to do with anything.

The Bible was written in Hebrew.
The first line is grammatically awkward and since at least the middle ages translations have been more closely seen as being
When God began creating the heavens and the earth....but even that is not great.

In the Beginning is a bad translation.

 

Multi million year old dinosaur bones are real, 2000 year old scriptures are not.

 

So then the corners of the earth is entirely inaccurate?

Thank you for proving my point. Too easy.

 

Energy can transform into matter, which requires Space/time to hold it.

According to the Copenhagen Interpretation, it is necessary that some observer exist in order to collapse the Wave Functions which carry this energy.
This means a Creator had to exist before there was Universe.
Essentially, energy is translated into Matter and Space/time according to E = mC^2.

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?There is stuff above the Earth, and also below.
But on Earth, there are these four compass points.

 

I have no quarrel with that.

 

Both interpretations tell us that the heavens and the earth had beginning, though...

 

I guess if we do not know, then we should create a energy God

when enough energy believe in the energy god, it transformed into matter all the pool non-believers are still energy

course then one could ask what caused the energy god to exist and so on....


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