We All Knew This Was Coming

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Would you support Trump's Coup?

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  2. No

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Oop, missed the link. Typically paying off a mistress isn't something you should be charged for, but if you do things like hide an in-kind campaign contribution while doing so or commit tax fraud by claiming it as a business expense, that's where the illegal part comes in.

    As far as charges in this case go, it would be very bizarre if the SDNY didn't at least try to bring charges. They charged the lawyer and said they had evidence that the client directed the lawyer's actions; it would be practically unheard of them to charge the lawyer and not the client in such an instance.
     
  2. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's where it can get kind of vague. When you run several big companies with your name as a brand image, protecting your personal reputation could be seen as a business expense.

    It's also vague whether a politician paying money to protect their reputation or suppress a scandal could be seen as a legitimate campaign expense.
     
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  3. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    And murdering somebody who was blackmailing you could be seen as necessary and legal.

    INALB but IMO none of those things you list are legal in any way. You can't do illegal things, not even to protect or further legal enterprises
     
  4. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    True

    But I think this is the least of Trump's troubles. There are 10 instances in the Mueller Report where Mueller said he could have indicted Trump for obstruction if there was not a Justice Dept memo forbidding the indictment of a sitting President Something like 1000 prosecutors who looked at the report agreed and Mueller when asked whether Trump could be prosecuted if he was no longer President, said simply "Yes." One of the very few one-word answers he gave. Trump is toast in 2021 as I can't see ANY prosecutor letting him go.
     
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  5. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dems keep handing him gifts. You can't force vote by mail and not expect a legal battle.
     
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    That's fine, but perhaps you shouldn't be using "the royal we" then and speak for yourself.
     
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  7. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Trump did not commit to accepting the results of the election in 2016 also. The press and leftists made a big stink about it then also.

    The ploy didn't work last time, why do you think it will work this time? They're literally regurgitating the same crap and leftists keep swallowing it up. Do they like the taste of rotten **** that much?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Mind if I frame this, as "most disingenuous argument of the year" ?

    Where do I even begin?
     
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  9. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Knock yourself out.
     
  10. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Trump keeps hoping the pandemic will give him the election
     
  11. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Um... I think it's the total opposite of that...
     
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    Oh yeah, Trump is playing that pandemic for all it's worth.
     
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    In other words you prefer a coup imposed on the people, rather than an elected president? Isn't that fascism?

    It's also very telling that the Republicans do not want mail in votes for fear of tampering, while the Democrats somehow do not have that fear? I wonder why?
     
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    I am sure both sides will exploit Covid for their campaigns. Sounds like you would force your candidate down America's throat without an election.
     
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    ~ This is something that Rod Rosenstein, Jim Comey and John Brennan would know a few things about ...
     
  16. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I would force Trump to accept whatever result the election dictated. You're the ones who seem to want elections to be postponed.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No reasonable person could extract that from what I said. What I want is a fair election. There is no reason people can crowd WalMart to buy crap, but not vote in person.
     
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    You've heard a bunch of falsehoods.
     
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    He won't have to be forced in the event he loses but he won't. The real concern will be is Biden going to whine as long as Hillary has?
     
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    Dictator for Life ! Taking a page right out of Brother Putinsky's book. !
     
  21. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And where was Trump's collusion with Russia, other than in 'Steels' dossier and those who paid him? Our resident sociopaths, were so intent on restoring the Cold War to fill their military industrial pockets - and to hinder Trump from bettering relations, that they were and still are considering a nuclear war.

    What a wonderful world they'll find when they exit their million dollar bunkers, but reasoning like that is beyond them.




    Conspiracy theories come and go,
    and yet with Trump it can't be so.
    It's Putin here, it's Russia there,
    it's what we're told you know?

    The years will come and years will pass,
    but this one's sure to last and last,
    for Russia must remain a foe.
    It's what we're told you know?
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    ~ Wrong dictator. That would be Xi Ping
     
  23. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Is that Tsar Bomba?
     
  24. Dayton3

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    Why? No branch of the U.S. military has the least bit of interest in keeping a defeated president in office or forcing out a
    Of course not. Tsar Bomba was detonated as a pure airburst. It's fireball never even reached the ground.
     
  25. Gentle- Giant

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    How about 140,00 dead Americans for a new issue, but don't panic president low IQ is sticking to his it's going to disappear like a miracle theme. He repeated that again Sunday. I fear that if the miracle doesn't happen soon I'm afraid the virus might hurt him politicly. As Paul Ryan would say his leadership has been exquisite. Don't be spooked by the polls we know they are always wrong.
     

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